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Spector/Orange terror help

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by mancefine, Jul 7, 2013.

  1. Jul 7, 2013 #1
    mancefine

    mancefine

    Jul 7, 2013
    Endorsing Artist: Orange Amplifiers and Spector Basses
    Hey guys,
    My rig is made up of a Spector euro 4lx, an Orange terror bass 1000, and an Ampeg 810. Ive owned both the ad200b and an svt classic, and I've really been blown away with the terror. Sounds just as good as the tube heads at half the price and 1/10th the weight. While I love the tone I'm getting, I have a couple of questions I hope someone can answer.
    1. I feel like I'm not getting enough bass on my high end. I play with the treble and bass knobs at full on the Spector, and have my lows on the terror at 3 o'clock, mids at 2 o'clock and the treble cut off some at 10 o clock. I used to play with the treble at 1 o'clock but I got way roo much twang on my high end. I'm trying to get a thick, punchy tone. Any ideas?

    2. My guitarist has a full Orange stack, and since my ampeg 810 is the only non orange piece of equipment, I'm looking into an orange obc810. The big thing with these is I never see anyone playing them, probably because most dealers don't carry them and they are expensive. My question to you guys is how do the Orange and ampeg 810s differ? Btw, the ampeg I have is one of the thicker wood ones made in the 90's and sounds great. I'm just wondering if anyone has noticed a difference in quality or sound between the two?
    Thanks!
     
  2. Jul 7, 2013 #2
    mancefine

    mancefine

    Jul 7, 2013
    Endorsing Artist: Orange Amplifiers and Spector Basses
    To clarify, my tone is thick and punchy, I would just like my d and g strings to have more low end while still having some treble and still being audible.
     
  3. Jul 8, 2013 #3
    big evil robot

    big evil robot

    Feb 27, 2005
    Edmonton, AB, Canada
    Have you considered changing your string gauge instead?

    I run a terror bass 500 through a traynor 412, and I've run it through various 610 and 810s as well, the one thing it's never lacked is bottom end.

    Changing out the preamp tubes may make some difference as well.

    I can't say anything about the Orange 810 vs Ampeg, but the Orange 410 is very good sounding although very very heavy
     
  4. Jul 10, 2013 #4
    bassmachine2112

    bassmachine2112

    Mar 23, 2008
    Turn down the treble on your geetar.
    Instead of maxing everything try cutting.
    You,ll never struggle for volume with a terror bass head especially the 1000 watt version which isn,t much louder really if you do the maths but you will have cleaner head room.
    Maybe try a cab with a tweeter fitted,that might be what you want to hear.
    Me I disconnect them or turn them off or use a cab without them.
    Or howabout a Musicman you,ll never be short of treble.
     
  5. Jul 10, 2013 #5
    AdamR

    AdamR Inactive

    Sep 24, 2007
    Bethel CT
    Try a bigger gauge D and G string and play with the pickup height on the lower half of the P pickup.
     
  6. Jul 10, 2013 #6
    thisSNsucks

    thisSNsucks I build Grosbeak Guitars and Basses Supporting Member Commercial User

    Dec 19, 2004
    Yonkers, NY
    Grosbeak Guitars
    Favor the neck pickup a bit. The D&G coils are closer to the neck on that bass so you should get them to thicken up a bit that way.
     
  7. Jul 11, 2013 #7
    bassmachine2112

    bassmachine2112

    Mar 23, 2008
    Have you tried another bass through it .
    See if you can get someone you know who has a different bass to try your set up.
    Something like a P-bass which we all know what they sound like and use that as a reference point.
    Sounds like it,s just EQ tweeking and gain/volume balancing.
    Watch the mids aren,t being scooped.
    Sounds to me that it,s high mid you want not treble or a dose of low mid instead of bass.
    Bass and treble down will allow mids to come out.
    Try another cab?
    Have you tried a preamp in front of the amp?
    Is your bass active ?
     
  8. Jul 11, 2013 #8
    AdamR

    AdamR Inactive

    Sep 24, 2007
    Bethel CT
    Tweaking the amp isnt going to help. He's looking for more low end on only the D & G strings. Any changes to his EQ will change the tone on all of the strings. He needs to play with the set up on the bass.