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Spector: USA Bolt-On vs Czechtor NT

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Ely, Oct 14, 2001.


  1. Spector NS-JH6 - $2300

    12 vote(s)
    48.0%
  2. Spector NSCRFM 5 - $2000

    13 vote(s)
    52.0%
  1. Ely

    Ely

    Jun 8, 2001
    Huntsville, AL
    Well I'm thinking of getting a new bass sometime next year, and since my birthday is coming up in a few more months I'll be able to get a part-time job. I've been looking into Spector Basses lately, and they seem really good quality.
    I was wondering whether to get the NS-JH6 Bolt-On (6-String w/ Swamp Ash body, probably with the Aguilar Preamp OBP-1) or a Czechtor 5-String (the new kind with crown inlays and figured maple, not the Musicians Friend solid color ones)

    What would be better? The Czechtor 5 is $2000 list price and the USA Bolt-On is $2300, +$175 for the Aguilar OBP-1, but the price difference of $300 isn't really that much. Which one would sound better? Would the Bolt-On be free of Dead-Spots, or be plagued with them like most Bolt-Ons? Much difference in the Hardware? Does the Bolt-On have the Spector sound, or is it slightly different?

    Also, where can I find REAL (doesn't have to be exact) pricing for these two basses, not the list price? I live 100 miles from the closest spector dealers (but I've been wanting to go to Nashville or Birmingham for quite a while, just haven't been able to find the time), but I tried a used Korean one and I loved its feel and sound, so I know either of the two will be phenominal.
     
  2. Ely

    Ely

    Jun 8, 2001
    Huntsville, AL
    Could people please put reasons WHY they voted for one or the other?
     
  3. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador
    I chose the NS5CRFM because its a better value.
    You could get it for around $1500 and is Neck Trough.
    That is the bass I wanted to purchase, but since I dont have a high-end 6 string yet (6 String is my primary) I chose to go with a Warwick.
    I considered the Spector USA 6 String Bolt-On but the spacing is tight, I dont like too much the shape (It isnt the same as the NS Neck Trough and some other things like the fingerboard dots and the black hardware. Just not my thing)
     
  4. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    I voted for the USA because I would rather get a 6 string, and the neck through Spectors are too heavy for me. They are a lot prettier though.

    Luis, the USA bolt on has the same body shape as the neck through models, it's just different wood.
     
  5. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador
    If you check them closely, you will see some differences. It not that noticeable on the 6 string.

    About the wood. NSJ Bolt-On is available with Figured Maple bodies too.

    There are very small diffences, you will have to look very close, you can notice it at the bottom an lower horn.
    Very slight, but my eyes can see the differences, and I truly like the NeckTrough exact shape.

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  6. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador
    Hmmm..
    After seein those pictures again, I can hardly keep my point.
    I believe the problem is in the Printed Catalog, the Shape of the NS5JH5 isnt right to me. It could posibly be a stretched picture.
    I still prefer the Czech.
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  7. flipperwhite

    flipperwhite

    Jul 12, 2001
    usa
    the answer to your question is,yes,both are great,I like the czech basses,I got my NS CRFM4 at http://www.riksmusic.com and got a wounderful deal that nobody would match,riks was recomended to me by PJ Rubal,Spectors nat.sales rep.tell Erik Flipper sent you and to give you a deal like I got,he's a very helpful guy.
     
  8. flipperwhite

    flipperwhite

    Jul 12, 2001
    usa
    oh yeah,don't be worried if what you are looking for isnt in stock,mine wasn't so I bought it through riks and they had it shipped direct from the factory in two days..free,I paid just over$1.000 no tax or shipping either
     
  9. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    I'd go for the bolt on USA. I played a couple of 4's & 5's & the necks felt GREAT. Much better than the Czech models. I like the idea that you can get a swamp ash body that makes the bass nice & light.

    If you're looking @ a Swamp Ash 6 w/the Aguilar, it won't have that distinct Spector sound (Neck thru/maple body) but it does sound great. I have the Aguilar pre amp in my Warmoth 5 string & it KILLS.
     
  10. Ely

    Ely

    Jun 8, 2001
    Huntsville, AL
    Could anyone describe the tonal diffrerences between Figured Maple and Swamp Ash? I really don't care if the figured maple weighs a couple ounces more or whatever if the tone is better. I just thought the swamp ash would be better because of the fact that it's cheaper and that I don't care if the bass is "extra purdy", thanks.
     
  11. I'm partiotic.. i vote for the Czech :)

    nah just kidding.. Just the pickups and the looks of the fretboard..

    :)
     
  12. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    Typically, ash gives a warmer sound & maple is brighter. But since both basses have different p/u's & pre-amp's, they'll have different tones if they were the same body wood, both N-T or B-O, etc.

    The NS-JH6CM has an EMG 45J in the neck & an EMG 45CS in the bridge & you want a Aguilar OBP-1 pre-amp & the NS-5CR has a pair of EMG 40DC's w/an EMG BTS pre-amp.

    Both great choices in sound & craftsmanship. Now it's up to you to deceide. :)
     
  13. RAM

    RAM

    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I personally voted for the US series. To me, you're getting a hand-made instrument made by Stuart. You're also getting a lifetime warranty.

    The Czech is made to Stuart's own specs, of course, and he even inspects it and sets it up according to his own requirements when completed. But, it's still not made by him.

    I guess it's an image thing;)
     
  14. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador
    Do you think Stuart himself makes he Bolt-On basses?
    Hmm... dont know.
     
  15. RAM

    RAM

    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    As opposed to whom? He signs the back of the headstocks on these, doesn't he?
     
  16. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    Now, now, children, no fighting. ;)

    Spector is a VERY small company & I beleive (not 100% sure) that Stuart is involved w/some aspects of building of his basses.
     
  17. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador
    I believe he does work on the USA NT Series, but I dont think he carves the USA Bolt Ons.
     
  18. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    What makes you say that?
     
  19. Ely

    Ely

    Jun 8, 2001
    Huntsville, AL
    Well I've decided to go for the USA Bolt-On because it is a 6-stringer, has better electronics (I've tried a bass with the Aguilar, it was awesome) has a lifetime warranty, and is made at least partially by Stuart, so it's gotta be good. Now I just gotta decide what color I want it in :D
     
  20. DarkMazda

    DarkMazda

    Jun 3, 2000
    NJ
    Whoa! Nino! I thought you would go for the neck through but I guess you went for the Bolt on. I would've picked the neckthrough5 since I'm not a really big 6 string player hehe :D

    I wanted to get that NS5CRFM but u know.... Brandin Stroy was selling his Zon Sonus Special 5 so I bought that instead ;)

    DM