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Spirocore dead E string

Discussion in 'Strings [DB]' started by Steve Boisen, Dec 4, 2017.


  1. Steve Boisen

    Steve Boisen Supporting Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    Tampa Bay, FL
    After several years of using synthetic core strings (Obligato, Evah, Zyex) I decided to install a set of Spirocores (3/4 lights) on my main bass. I was looking forward to the added brightness and definition, but the initial set had a dead sounding E string. I contacted Thomastik and they replaced it with a string that sounded much better, but now three months later it's just as dead as the first one. I don't think the issue is my bass because other brands of strings didn't have this problem and the current E string was fine when I first installed it. I know some people use a medium E with this set, but I'd rather not go that route. Has anyone else had this experience with Spirocores?

    - Steve
     
  2. bskts247

    bskts247 Supporting Member

    Aug 16, 2011
    New Orleans
    Can you explain what "dead" means?
     
  3. Steve Boisen

    Steve Boisen Supporting Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    Tampa Bay, FL
    Compared to the other strings there is less brightness and clarity. The sustain is still good though.

    - Steve
     
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2017
  4. Carl Hillman

    Carl Hillman

    Jan 1, 2010
    Is your E string significantly (disproportionally) higher than the rest of your strings?

    Spiros definitely lose their "zing" after three months of daily playing, but usually one string out of a set doesn't sound darker than the rest for me.
     
  5. Steve Boisen

    Steve Boisen Supporting Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    Tampa Bay, FL
    No, the E is not significantly higher. I'm starting to think it's just my expectations vs. reality.

    - Steve
     
  6. bskts247

    bskts247 Supporting Member

    Aug 16, 2011
    New Orleans
    can you post a video?
     
  7. KUNGfuSHERIFF

    KUNGfuSHERIFF Supporting Member

    Feb 8, 2002
    Upstate NY
    Absent a manufacturing defect...sometimes. Mistakes happen, and some strings have wildly different timbres across the set even if all is well.
     
  8. james condino

    james condino Spruce dork Supporting Member

    Sep 30, 2007
    asheville, nc
    soundpost adjustment
     
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  9. I recently installed for a while, just to try, a forgotten Spirocore 4/4 medium set that I have from 1993! It was on the first bass (used) I had bought, then took it off and installed a weich set.
    Well, I was surprised! Bright as new!!... And also significantly brighter than a new same set I bought before 4 years.
    I believe that the company something must have change between all these years.
     
  10. Steve Boisen

    Steve Boisen Supporting Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    Tampa Bay, FL


    - Steve
     
  11. bskts247

    bskts247 Supporting Member

    Aug 16, 2011
    New Orleans
    I can defiantly hear it. Maybe send that to Pirastro and maybe they can determine the problem.

    I'd suggest cleaning it. Tune it down to Db and take a paper towel with rubbing alcohol up and down the string till there is no gunk on the towel.
     
  12. Steve Boisen

    Steve Boisen Supporting Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    Tampa Bay, FL
    I know you meant to say Thomastik not Pirastro, but I actually sent back the original E string when I installed this replacement, and it was fine at first. I'll go ahead and try the detuning in cleaning. It certainly can't hurt.

    - Steve
     
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2017
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  13. Thomastik uses the same process as ever, but the material they buy to wind the strings has changed slightly. And since developing a string set is not easy (you need to work with material and sizes that you can get on the market), I think they decided not to change the manufacturing process.
    I talked once to one of the Thomastik string developers and got that info from there.
     
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  14. jmlee

    jmlee Catgut? Not funny. Supporting Member

    Jun 16, 2005
    Halifax, Nova Scotia
    It happened to me with a mittel set. I replaced it with a new stark E and all’s been good. Not that much thicker really but a really nice sounding string.
     
  15. ctrlzjones

    ctrlzjones

    Jul 11, 2013
    As Mr. Codino says, I've had similar matters solved by moving the soundpost. If you don't want to get under the hood you can (before) try moving the bridge in all directions, subtly.