Squier Precision CV 60's: what is it really worth?

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  1. Syl_Funky_bass

    Syl_Funky_bass

    Jun 4, 2016
    Belgium
    Hi All,

    First of all, let me specify that I'm a die-hard (5-string) Jazz bass fan.
    I own two 5-string basses (I currently don't have any 4-string bass and have actually almost no experience on it). I'm very much into active instruments: my main bass is a Victor Bailey Jazz V signature with a Uni-Pre 4 John East preamp and Nordstrand NJ5FS. I feel like I can literally get any sound out of that bass. I love it and I don't really feel I miss anything instrument-wise for live playing.

    BUT

    Recently I've been recording more and more and I've realized that a (passive) 4-string instrument would be very useful on many recordings. The primary reason is purely sound-related: I'm looking for that classic P-bass tone with TI flatwounds.
    The other main reason why I want to get a Precision bass is the simplicity and the minimalist side of it.

    I'm looking for an instrument that I would mostly/exclusively be using for recording purposes as I plan to keep on using my Victor Bailey jazz bass on steroids as my main axe. Therefore I don't care very much about the name on the headstock.

    While looking for a good/traditional-sounding P-bass I came across the very cheap Indonesia-made Squier CV 60's Precision basses.
    What are your experiences with these basses and how do they compare with more expensive Fender P-basses taking exclusively into consideration the sound and feel factor (I'll most probably only record with that instrument)? So please try and don't take too much into consideration factors such as mojo, maintenance, build quality, hardware quality etc.
    I'm only looking at the the sound that I'd get straight out of a USB audio interface (Traditional P-bass sound) and to a lesser extent the feel of the instrument: it has to be feel right, not amazing like a custom built Fodera but comfortable enough to be inspired to play great lines.

    To sum it up I'd say that I'm an advanced player who never played on a Precision bass in his life and that is looking to buy one that would deliver the right sound and feel (equivalent to an American-made instrument and suited for professional use) while spending the smallest amount of money.


    Thanks in advance everyone.

    P. S. I've never owned nor played a P-bass in my entire life!

    There you can see me playing various songs:
     
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  2. LadyLoveStingRay5

    LadyLoveStingRay5

    Jul 17, 2004
    Squier Classic Vibe Precision basses are great . But the newer Indonesia models can be hit or miss . The original Crafted in China are excellent and worth every penny. There is a reason they have increased in value.

    Like you I favor Jazz basses but keep a Pbass around for the same reasons. And I keep mine string with TI flats.
    There are a few on EBay right now. Try to find either the Fiesta Red or Sonic blue models .

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  3. Yahboy

    Yahboy

    May 21, 2008
    Squier CV60P + Ti flat are wonderful match. But.....it happened on china CV60P.
    Indo CV60P ? worth nothing to me.....
     
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  4. Syl_Funky_bass

    Syl_Funky_bass

    Jun 4, 2016
    Belgium
    How can there be such a huge/substantial difference between Indonesian and Chinese made models? And what would these differences actually be?
    How can the Chinese models be that great and the Indonesian ones "worth nothing" while we're in theory still talking about the exact same bass, in the same price range?
    I just want to understand.

    Thanks.
     
  5. Yahboy

    Yahboy

    May 21, 2008
    I been own those china made CV60P,60J and 50P since 2012, also own VM77J,VM STD J and VM fretless P plus 2007 Fender MIM STD J..... then after play some indo CVp and J include CV50P bought on last October..... the feeling and touching told me everthing.
    The Para 54J are the only one current Squier bass has close QC to china CVbass.
    If you want to know how the discontinued china mde CV bass quality ? Just try the new Fender PLayer bass.

    I suspect the reason FMIC stop the CV line(bass and guitar) in china because those bass are sooooooo nice in playing feel and QC , all the good thing on china CV bass easily make player get impressive and fall in love with enough reason , then stay way from previous Fender MIM std (QC issue are main reason in past).

    Move to Indonesia which give it rebranded from VM become CV, so, it able make a quality gap between indo CV and Fender Player....... and FMIC get more profit.
     
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  6. Yahboy

    Yahboy

    May 21, 2008
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    The Poor Man Pino P bass.....

    I own this bass since 2012 until 2020 (i broke the truss rod myself then let it go with fairly low price....)

    Great fretwork from china factory, extreamly lovely neck profile, stable neck, no single deadspot include the Fender famous G string dead spot, stay in tune tuning machines, nice sounding stock pickup (but i swap more than 7 kind of Pbass pickups on it....),well balance body wihout neck dive, rosewood fretboard (not that dead woord like grey lauren board on indo CV bass)...... zero issue on it.
     
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  7. Syl_Funky_bass

    Syl_Funky_bass

    Jun 4, 2016
    Belgium
    Thanks for your feedback man.

    I get that the China made CV P-basses were great. But still how does it make the Indonesian model that bad or 'worth nothing'?

    So if I understood well the biggest difference lies in quality control, right? Which to me means that not all Indonesia made Squier CV Precision basses are poopie. Some might still be close to the quality level of China made models and some don't, I guess?
     
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  8. Yahboy

    Yahboy

    May 21, 2008
    My worth nothing thing is there are USD 299 on earlier China CV bass with nice and onpair to current Fender Player bass QC compare to current USD399 indo CV bass with " worth their price QC " ,ofcause that is VM quality.

    The current CV60P sound pretty dark compare to china CV60P which sound unbeliever nice.

    Enjoy this old youtube demo/compare
     
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  9. bordinco90

    bordinco90

    Dec 7, 2011
    SW Louisiana
    The Squier CV P basses are some of the best basses on the market! I've owned 3 of them and they have never disappointed. Out of the box they IMO play better than most Made in Mexico P Basses out of the box. You will not be disappointed if you buy one.
     
  10. Search on YouTube for 'Squier Classic Vibe 60's Precision bass' (recent videos) and you'll find everything you want to know.
     
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  11. JW56789

    JW56789 Guest

    Feb 18, 2017
    I could care less where they made it. The currently-available PBass from Squier is next on my list. Whatever difference there may or may not be is nothing I can't fine tune to suit. I plan to get the sunburst one, and add the old ashtray covers and trade out to a Fralin P pickup as my lame attempt at a Jamerson/Motown remembrance.

    That's the thing with Precisions, everyone out there makes replacement or mod parts to fit, so as long as it's relatively solid (and believe me, the current ones are) I can pretty much do whatever needs doing. I'm just not going there to split hairs about 'vintage' Squiers and their relative values. I had one of the original MIJ Squier P's back in the day ($189 list ! in the early 80's), and to see them going for around a grand today is just hilarious.

    As always, you'll need to be careful inasmuch that more than a little often a bass that sounds great through an amp may not record well, and vice-versa, and it happens with Squiers as well as basses costing many multiples of that inexpensive price range.

    We have a similar background:

    After years of playing neckthru 24-fret, active basses, fives exclusively since the late 80's, I bought my first 4-string Jazz and P Bass a little over a year ago, the first 4-string I've owned since 1987. It's a shift in mindset particularly on the Precision with one pickup, a volume a tone . . . .and that's it. There's a certain elegant simplicity to it, but after basses with two pickups and far more extensive control options, it's a little confounding at first. I got to admit it took me a while to come to it in my head. And then one day it dawned on me how you could do so much with (comparatively) so little and now when I play it, I think, 'great, one knob !'.
     
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  12. CallMeAl

    CallMeAl

    Dec 2, 2016
    Ithaca Ny
    I’ve had great experiences with Indonesian Squiers. As far as Squier vs Fender for recording, IMHO strings, technique and EQ will be your biggest variables.

    As for neck playability, the newest squiers have a glossier finish, wider nut, and slightly rounder/smoother fretboard edge compared to the next tier Fender (Player series.) A lot of that comes down to personal preference, so it is probably a “try before you buy” type scenario.

    So long as you like the neck, you could get the Squier, add aftermarket pickups (if you find the stock ones lacking), and still come out cheaper than a Fender.
     
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  13. Fun Size Nick

    Fun Size Nick

    Feb 21, 2006
    Hong Kong
    Agreed. I have an Indonesian Squier VM Precision from 2012 and it's a brilliant P-bass. Ok, the nut was too high from the factory, that's easily fixed. Ok, the stock pickup was more modern-sounding than I like (not bad-sounding), that's easily fixed. Still a bargain all up and even more so secondhand.

    If the current Indonesian-made CVs are made to a similar standard, I'd be happy to have one.

     
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  14. micguy

    micguy

    May 17, 2011
    CNC machines operating on Indonesia and China probably make VERY similar wood parts. And then some metal parts of very similar (if not identical) designare bolted on by factory workers. Is there a BIG difference?

    I think you'll find that the folks that prefer one or the other the strongest are those that OWN one or the other, and like to feel/justify that THEY made the right choice. The stories telling you to stay away from one or the other almost always include "the one I bought is from the better group". Buying an instrument injects a huge dose of confirmation bias into any human being.

    As with any bass, it's about the neck - if that's straight, has good fretwork, and the truss rod works, then anything else that can go wrong on the bass is a minor fix. Play it, and evaluate it as honestly as you can before you buy it. If it inspires you to practice, it's a good musical instrument. If you feel like it's fighting you, it isn't - regardless of where the thing was bolted together.
     
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  15. nonohmic

    nonohmic Supporting Member

    Dec 13, 2005
    ABQ, NM.
    I just swapped out TI flats for GHS pressurewounds on mine, and dare I say they match even better!
     
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  16. LadyLoveStingRay5

    LadyLoveStingRay5

    Jul 17, 2004
    Nope !!:rollno: I’ve owned examples from each. I’m not saying this is the case with all basses. I’m talking from experience with the Classic Vibe 60’s Pbass in particular which is specifically what the OP is asking about. Ive owned 7 of these specific basses.
     
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  17. Yahboy

    Yahboy

    May 21, 2008
    Been load a set of PW L7200 for a while on my both china made CV60P and 60J , but only sound nice on CV60J. On CV60P, PW sound ok while play alone, fresh from pack sound pretty alike broke in/dead sounding 7250 . For roundwound,I prefer stock 7250 on my CV60P which has better upper mid voice mix in band.

    Different folk different taste.

    Enjoy .
     
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  18. Different factories that have produced Squier P basses using CNC machines would have used the same program routine to cut the wood, so the wood blanks would have been identical. But the sources for that wood could differ greatly.
     
  19. Erik herman

    Erik herman Gold Supporting Member

    Chinese Squiers and Fenders are sweet.
    Echoing what has already been said if you get a choice I would say Chinese CV!
     
  20. sonojono

    sonojono Supporting Member

    Feb 13, 2013
    California
    TBH the new CV Squiers are not up to par with the VM lines IMO...
     
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