(a bit long, sorry) I was just contemplating some experiences and thoughts about what I hear onstage vs. what I hear thru the FOH / in the room during a performance. This applies to a band that is using full PA support, every single sound source is going thru the PA (this is the typical arrangement in local bands and local clubs). I wonder how many musicians and vocalists realize that The quieter you are onstage, the better you will sound (through FOH) to the audience? I also wonder why so many guitarists and vocalists need their stage amps and monitors to be so unbelievably loud So they can hear themselves onstage? Seems that almost without fail, if Im onstage with any band and get into the coverage pattern of the guitar amp, or the lead vocalists monitor, the volume is hideously and painfully loud. I personally cannot stand that kind of SPL. When performing onstage, it seems to me that each bandmember (in an ideal situation) should run their amp/monitor just loud enough to hear themselves with their respective source slightly dominant in their perceived overall stage mix. It would be difficult to manage your dynamics and focus on your part if there wasnt a slight dominance (from your listening position onstage) in your volume. Conversely, if you were to go out into the room with a wireless mic or wireless guitar, while playing, then hearing the overall mix is sometimes strange, because a good mix DOESNT have the dominance of whatever YOU are playing. Out in the room its about the band sounding good, NOT about your instrument or voice burying everything else. Seems that musicians often miss this point as well. Also, I find too many bands that push their PA too loud in the room and over-saturate the room with volume. I see nothing but disadvantage in doing so .. For one, people in the club dont really like a LOUD band as much as they like a good sounding one, in which you can have a conversation without screaming into someones ear. I know this from experience, because I mix our band often and talk to people in the club during break, musicians and non-musicians alike, and I pay attention to their opinions. Second, it (over-saturating) tends to wash back and wash out the stage mix, so the bandmembers are hearing shiite just like the audience is. Even so, the band keeps the gear screaming for reasons Ill never understand. Any thoughts? Especially how to communicate these concepts to friends who perform and ask me to help dial in their PA because it doesnt sound right??? Thanks for reading. Good gigs and good mixes to you all.