Sterling S.U.B Ray a knockoff?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by HalfPlayer, Jul 13, 2013.

  1. HalfPlayer


    Jun 9, 2013
    A bunch of other bass players have been telling me that the whole series of S.U.B Rays by Musicman are knockoffs of the Stingrays, I suppose this is true but does this mean the knockoffs are bad quality?
  2. DiabolusInMusic

    DiabolusInMusic Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism

    They aren't knock off's, they are completely authorized and I am pretty sure are built by the same company since they stop letting OLP license them.

    I don't have experience with them but I doubt they are of low quality, I have heard more good things than bad.
  3. Riverrunsred


    Jan 20, 2010
    Central FL
    I don't see it as any different than Fender & Squier .
  4. Halvorsen


    Mar 7, 2008
  5. FourBanger


    Sep 2, 2012
    SE Como
    Knockoff typically means unauthorized copies by a different company, Sterling is part of EBMM, so they must be accusing the company of stealing from themselves.
  6. dagovna659


    Mar 2, 2011
    New Jersey
    SUB Ray4 and Sub Ray5's are not knockoffs don't listen to gear snobs. I'm speaking about the Sterling SUB' Ray4 & Ray5. Of course Sterling had to find a way to make them affordable, hence, MII(made in Indonesia). I own an origial EBMMSR5,love it. I currently gig my Sub Ray5, I have no problems with it. The tone,weight,looks are all winners to me.
    If you are talking about the Sterling Sub series made in California I could not offer an opinion because I've never played one. Besides, if you like it then thats all that matters right. Let me tell u a little something about some snobs. Not all snobs, some snobs. Yes, they have all the expensive gear, but most of them couldnt groove if they're life depended on it. Now the ones that can't will take offense to what i'm saying but the ones that can know i'm telling the truth. So don't get caught up in the oh he got a Leo Quan bridge thats why his bass sounds like that. Hell Leo'(Fender)
    same bridge has been recorded on more than enough hit records. Worry about whats important to you musically, your skillset, the rest will follow suit. I'm not a Victor,Stanlry,or Marcus. But I can more than get the job done with any tool(bass) at my disposal. Peace
  7. hdracer


    Feb 15, 2009
    Elk River, MN.
    Big difference.

    Fender is completely involved with Squier. They are listed on the Fender web site.

    Go to the Music Man web site. You would never know that they had a Sterling by Music Man (or what ever they are calling them now) line.

    If you need customer service with a Squier you call Fender.
    If you need CS with a SBMM you call Praxis Musical Instruments Inc.

    Ernie Ball or Music Man really doesn't have anything to do with them. Just like the OLP's.
    A Squier is a Fender
    A SBMM is not a Music Man. They are a licensed product.

    Would a Mighty Mite neck be a Fender neck? It's just a licensed product.
  8. Riverrunsred


    Jan 20, 2010
    Central FL
    If you say so.
  9. huckleberry1


    Jul 1, 2013
    Mesquite, Texas
    I played the 4 & 5 and for the money they are great little bases, I played the 4 which was seafoam green and sounded pretty good. Played the 5 and it left me wanting a bit but I was comparing the sound to my ATK-5 string. In my opinion it is a good buy for a starter.