Sterling SUB SB4 by musicman

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by magic8161, Jun 7, 2020.

  1. magic8161

    magic8161 Supporting Member

    Mar 4, 2003
    Milwaukee
    I just bought one of theses and the output is hot as heck. is there a easy way to change it all to passive? or is there some kind of drop in kit that is active with a passive switch? I can solder ok. Ths bass Has such a awesome feel to it that its hard to put down.
     
  2. sissy kathy

    sissy kathy Back to Bass-ics Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2014
    Arbutus, MD
    I'm not a fan of active basses; but I gotta ask. Why? There's a volume knob on the thing, right? TURN. IT. DOWN.
     
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  3. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    Rip the guts out like everybody else did. Stock guts are garbage. Just my honest opinion. Volume works but the sound is very harsh sounding. What year is yours? I think the newer models had a preamp change or tweak.

    Edit: Yours is a SB4 which are no longer made and probably has the older preamp in it.
     
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  4. magic8161

    magic8161 Supporting Member

    Mar 4, 2003
    Milwaukee
    it does. its older
     
  5. magic8161

    magic8161 Supporting Member

    Mar 4, 2003
    Milwaukee
    thats the word Harsh. even with low volume
     
  6. magic8161

    magic8161 Supporting Member

    Mar 4, 2003
    Milwaukee
    Rip out guts and replace with what?
     
  7. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    Plenty of options. I went with EMG (pickup and BTC). I believe Nordstrand makes a Stingray clone of the pickup and preamp. Bartolini makes a set. Seymour Duncan.
     
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  8. magic8161

    magic8161 Supporting Member

    Mar 4, 2003
    Milwaukee
    Whst is BTC?
     
  9. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    Bass Treble Control. However mine had 2 separate knobs for Bass & Treble. Coulda been the BTS but since there is only 1 pickup, no need for the blend knob.
    BTC Control
    BTS System
     
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  10. LoTone

    LoTone Clean as an Entwistle... Supporting Member

    Nov 4, 2010
    Quebec, Canada
    On a passive bass, most people keep the volume knob to maximum at all times. However, on a bass with a preamp, dialing down the volume knob is a valid option as it will not change the tone too much.
     
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  11. P Cheen

    P Cheen Alembics and parametric mid knobs scare me.

    Apr 4, 2015
    Southern Oregon
    You can replace it with those nice wiring harnesses they sell on Reverb or ebay. Gun Street from Oregon and Starr Guitars from Texas come to mind.
     
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  12. jpaulo

    jpaulo

    Aug 18, 2018
    Sao Paulo / Brazil
    I have one the newer models - it is still hot.
    Reducing the bass to the neutral position (and reducing volume) helps a lot and I still get BASS!
     
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  13. skyline_01

    skyline_01 Endorsing artist: Nordstrand Audio, Tsunami Cables Supporting Member

    Nov 14, 2006
    Lebanon, OH
    Yep, the stock pre on the older ones is a super hot (output) mess. The volume pot also has a very uneven taper (at least mine did) where most of the output happens at the top of its travel.

    Any quality 3-knob preamp will be a huge improvement. I went with a Nordstrand 2B-3A which is fantastic. It also has a tiny trim control on the circuit board so you can boost or cut its output to match your gear.

    The stock pickup sounds fine enough to keep, and many here would agree. I only replaced mine with a Nordstrand bc I won it in a contest, but it does sound dope FYI if your looking for a replacement down the road.
     
  14. onamission

    onamission Supporting Member

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  15. magic8161

    magic8161 Supporting Member

    Mar 4, 2003
    Milwaukee
     
  16. skyline_01

    skyline_01 Endorsing artist: Nordstrand Audio, Tsunami Cables Supporting Member

    Nov 14, 2006
    Lebanon, OH
    This one would probably be my choice next time if I were putting together a 'Ray parts bass or modding another SUB Ray. I've heard great things about them.
     
  17. skyline_01

    skyline_01 Endorsing artist: Nordstrand Audio, Tsunami Cables Supporting Member

    Nov 14, 2006
    Lebanon, OH
    Here's the link to the Nordstrand product page:

    2 Band Preamps

    They come prewired with pots and jack attached - you would just have to de-solder the two pickup wires and bridge ground wire from stock preamp (black/ground wires will probably be attached to the back of pots), then re-solder them to the new preamp. Pots and jack just switch out (nuts and bolts). They also have detailed wiring diagrams available on their site under "More", then "Technical". This one is for the 2B-3A that I have:

    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1941/7837/files/2B_plus_3a_epoxy.pdf?8624475504179042076

    The Mojotone mentioned above would also be a good and lesser-expensive choice as well.
     
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  18. maxschrek

    maxschrek Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2006
    Chattanooga, TN.
    + 1 on the Mojotone. They pretty much nail it.
     
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  19. RoyBatty_1984

    RoyBatty_1984

    Jun 8, 2020
    I just bought the Sterling Sub SR5 less than a week ago and found the pickup to be real hot, but I lowered the pickup so it is almost flush to the body (about an 8th of an inch or less raised above the profile) and it improved significantly... Also, deadening the strings helped a bunch with the zingy quality of the sound... playing it with the treble fully cut and the bass at center position feels great, now. The preamp change may come later, but I figure the stock electronics are not that bad if the bass is properly setup.

    Cheers!
     
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  20. IamGroot

    IamGroot Inactive

    Jan 18, 2018
    Does the Sterling Classic 24CA have the same pups and preamp? I own both and play them with the volume knob dialed back. I was playing the 24CA straight into a Rumble 500 yesterday and the amp was distorting on about 40% wide open on the bass. I play really hard.