Stingray crack- structural or superficial?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by TNMoney, Jun 23, 2020.

  1. TNMoney


    Jan 23, 2020
    Hey all,

    I’ve been keeping my eyes out for a Stingray in my neck of the woods since I’ve been getting GAS for one lately. There’s one listed here with a crack in the finish- but I’m wondering if someone with a more trained eye can tell if it’s a deeper wood issue or more aesthetic. Other than the crack on the back it looks pretty good without any obvious signs of thrashing. Any and all opinions are appreciated. It’s a bit of a drive to just go check it out without more insight. It’s listed for $700
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  2. Lackey


    May 10, 2002
    Los Angeles
    For 700 bucks I'd absolutely drive out to check it out. If it plays well and doesn't have any noticable acoustic irregularities I would probably buy it. Crack's on the back after all.
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  3. Lackey


    May 10, 2002
    Los Angeles
    NOTE: my TRB 6 has a sizeable crack between neck pocket and first pickup, only on the surface. No other issues. That's my personal experience with cracked instruments. YMMV, but if it's an actual MusicMan and not a Sterling that's a fair price.
  4. TNMoney


    Jan 23, 2020
    Yeah it’s definitely a real MusicMan, and I’m inclined to think it’s a good price too- if it is just superficial. Thanks for the input.
  5. Wood and Wire

    Wood and Wire

    Jul 15, 2017
    That's a good price, and it's most likely just a crack in the finish (looks to be, though I've never seen one that long).

    Personally, I'd want to inspect it, because that is very close to where the two halves of the body join (though I don't want to scare you off a probably perfectly good instrument).
  6. Thegrandwazoo

    Thegrandwazoo Supporting Member

    Sep 8, 2013
    West Virginia
    ^That, for sure. It is right where the body would be glued together (if it even is), but I suspect it's just a finish crack. Do you think the owner would take the neck off and send you a picture of the pocket?
  7. TNMoney


    Jan 23, 2020
    He said he wasn’t comfortable enough with doing that kind of work on the instrument. Fair enough- but I’ll prob ask to do it if I decide to make the hour and a half drive...
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  8. Cuzzie

    Cuzzie Supporting Member

    Jan 1, 2016
    Get the serial number and email Ernie Ball and ask if it’s a 1 piece or a 2 piece body.

    If it’s a 1 piece it’s unlikely to have any structural significance an will be the finish
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  9. Thegrandwazoo

    Thegrandwazoo Supporting Member

    Sep 8, 2013
    West Virginia
    Every Music Man I've seen with a transparent finish has been 2-piece, but that doesn't really apply here. If I had to guess, I'd say the safe bet is all of them are 2-piece.
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  10. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    I'm looking at the pic in OP. It looks like a scratch. Like it took a fall or someone let the drummer touch it. Reason is a structural crack at a joint 'might' be more linear or maybe not. But the the 2 small lines to the upper right and the longer one to the lower right? That's not how a body would crack unless it got run over by a truck or a drummer. Let us know when you see it. If it was a break in the wood, there are 4 lines visible, you would probably see more signs than that.
    It's absolutely the right thing to bring a Ray into the world. So go take a look at it.
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  11. Beej


    Feb 10, 2007
    Vancouver Island
    If it opens at all when manually flexing the body, its probably in the body itself. If no movement at all, its probably in the finish. Odd sized crack to be from checking though.
  12. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    To me it looks like what would happen if the drummer says "hey, lemme see that bass" and he drags it over the top of his kit. That's just normal drummer behavior so it's possible. Just saying it's worth a hands-on look. Hate to see a Ray just sitting there in front of someone's cheap Halloween decorations that are still up in June. And a mismatched D string! This Ray needs a real forever home.
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  13. invalidprotocol

    invalidprotocol Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 2008
    I'm more concerned about the way that skeleton on the right is starring at your Stingray. Even the skeleton on the left looks concerned.
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  14. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    I agree. Those bony fingers are a nightmare on those finishes.
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  15. wraub


    Apr 9, 2004
    ennui, az
    At worst, it's a stress crack from the body pieces separating, at best it's just a finish crack from temperature extremes. At a guess, it looks like the latter, but, just a guess.

    I'd ask for a better pic, or just plan for a drive.
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  16. Get a solid, straight on shot of the front and see if the crack extends to the front at all. Looks like glue joint crack to me but i cannot center the body up from the image. Talk him or her down another hundred.
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  17. bassfreakah

    bassfreakah Supporting Member

    Mar 26, 2011
    Endorsing Artist Ernie ball strings
    And love the maple neck!!!!!
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  18. svlilioukalani

    svlilioukalani Supporting Member

    Sep 19, 2012
    Seattle, Wa
    I would be all over that for $700. That crack looks like it is just on the paint.
  19. TNMoney


    Jan 23, 2020
    I’m asking for more pics... we’ll see.
  20. Maxdusty


    Mar 9, 2012
    Michigan USA
    Really hard to tell from that picture, but for $700, might be worth driving to look at it in person. If it's a finish crack, wouldn't there be a little bit of paint chipping at where the two cracks intersect?