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Strange Music Man Provenance

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Free30, Sep 27, 2020.

  1. Free30


    Sep 27, 2020
    Hi all.

    Wondering if anyone can help me out. About to buy this 2018 MM Sterling bass but the decal behind the headstock is niggling me - never seen this type before on an USA made MM. Normally it's just the 'MADE IN SAN LUIS, CALIFORNIA' etc. The serial number on the neck plate checks out fine via Music Man's website database.


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  2. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    I have seen that stamp on several EBMM basses. It is legitimate. Check their website or forum for more details.
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  3. Free30


    Sep 27, 2020
    Thanks so much dude.
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  4. arbiterusa


    Sep 24, 2015
    San Diego, CA
    If they're going California pride to that extent I may be owning one of these sooner rather than later.
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  5. Free30


    Sep 27, 2020
    It is odd. Maybe it was some one off anniversary thing? Though there's no symmetry between1974 & 2018...
  6. gebass6

    gebass6 We're not all trying to play the same music. Supporting Member

    When did Ernie Ball buy Music Man?
    Wasn't it in the early eighties?
    When did the Sterling series start?
  7. Cazman

    Cazman Supporting Member

    May 9, 2003
    As of 2018, that is their stamp. My ‘18 stingray special is my first one that had it, anyway
  8. Joe Nerve

    Joe Nerve Supporting Member

    Oct 7, 2000
    New York City
    Endorsing artist: Musicman basses
    LOL... I was just going to say I've never seen that before. Then I read @Cazman post, checked the back of my SS Stingray and, well....

    Yeah. That's what's there now :) .
  9. BIGEJ2

    BIGEJ2 Supporting Member

    Jul 29, 2009
    Happy Valley, PA
    The logo is legit. I believe The tuners they use are made in Germany and because of that, they can no longer use the made in CA logo.
  10. Not that I even have a horse in this fight, but I'd feel a lot better if the words "MADE IN" were included in that stamp/sticker. It may be semantics, but when other brands went from "made in the USA" to "assembled in the USA", there was a reason for it.

    Added after my initial post:
    And that would certainly explain it.
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  11. Ernie Ball bought Music Man in 1984 but the Music Man company I believe was started in 1974 with their Amplifiers coming out before their guitars and basses. I could be wrong on this but that would explain the reference to 1974 in the California stamp.
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  12. KaseOfBass

    KaseOfBass Put some stank on it... Supporting Member

    Jan 8, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    Endorsing Artist: GHS Strings
    Yep, this is the reason given by Sterling Ball. They had to change to logo several years back due to legislation passed in California. This logo began around 2016.
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  13. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    What @BIGEJ2 said. It feels bad to say it out loud but this tracks. California law.
    Some brands use labels that say "Crafted" for the same reason. Clever way of keeping out of trouble with the commerce department.
    Lately Fender has been appealing to consumers not to throw their Strat in the trash can with this label. Should go without saying, do not throw away a Strat. But now everybody knows. It just makes it easier to do the right thing:
  14. KaseOfBass

    KaseOfBass Put some stank on it... Supporting Member

    Jan 8, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    Endorsing Artist: GHS Strings
    Sterling 4-string - 1993
    Sterling 5-string - 2008
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  15. steelbed45

    steelbed45 33 on Ignore Supporting Member

    Feb 23, 2011
    Nolanville, TX
    My new Sterling was manufactured on 01/15/2020 and has that sticker.
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  16. selowitch

    selowitch Supporting Member

    Aug 6, 2005
    Rockville MD
    I think the change in the stamp reflects California state law with regard to products labeled “Made in USA.” It’s gone back and forth. Gov. Jerry Brown signed the initial law in 2015 but its restrictions were subsequently relaxed in 2018.
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  17. murphy

    murphy Supporting Member

    May 5, 2004
    I just checked in because I loved the thread title :thumbsup:
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  18. sawzalot

    sawzalot Supporting Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    That’s legit for more recent EBMM USA basses.
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  19. Smallmouth_Bass


    Dec 29, 2005
    I seem to recall this subject coming up before and it was indeed related to the law, although I do not have the exact details.
  20. AudioTaper

    AudioTaper Supporting Member

    Sep 23, 2018
    Mandela effect...
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