Stringing a bass with taper-wounds.

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by Wespe, Dec 7, 2007.

  1. Wespe


    Feb 21, 2006
    I just bought an Ibanez BTB456 6-string bass. It came out of the store with taper-wounds on it.

    And I'm in love with this bass, because it sounds lovely, but past the seventh fret it's scary how out of tune it can sound with the notes all by themselves.

    Typical taper-wound problem... 'warbling', 'chorusing'.

    What I'm asking here is that what do I lose if I were to go to a set of non-taperwound strings for the bass? And also, how would I properly string a set of taper-wound strings so as to completely avoid that problem?
  2. Wespe


    Feb 21, 2006
    I need help here... any is appreciated.
  3. I'm probably beating a dead horse here, but have you checked/set the intonation?
  4. Wespe


    Feb 21, 2006
    The problem isn't to do with the intonation. It has to do with the fact that they're taper wound strings. Up past the seventh fret or so, any fretted note sounds out of tune for some reason. You have to hear it to understand it. It sounds as if you can hear the note being fretted, but the further you go up the neck the more dissonant it sounds.
  5. Personally, I love taper wounds. My ADJV is strung with them and I have a new set (SIT) for when I need them. I use them on the ADJV because standard strings don't like to be strung through the body, it seems. I have absolutely no problem with them at any location on the fretboard. My advice would be to replace them with another set of taper wounds before abandoning the concept. They are supposed to allow the larger strings to vibrate more freely, but I've never experienced the "warbling" you describe with a good set of strings. I have, though, experienced that with brand new strings that had a broken core. At any rate, if you are unhappy with them, by all means change them to whatever string you prefer.
  6. Wespe


    Feb 21, 2006
    I do want to keep the taper-wounds on, but from what I've read if the taper of the string isn't pretty much right on the saddle you get the warbling I've described.

    On your basses, are the tapers in place right on top or near the saddles?
  7. The ADJV is the only one I currently have tapers on and it has the grooved saddles; therefore I likely wouldn't see the problem you're describing. I am considering putting a set on my Studio 5, as well, so I will watch for this phenomenon if I do put them on.
  8. Sorry, but I misread your previous question. To answer it, the ADJV being strung through the body moves the tapered portion of the string behind the saddle.
  9. Wespe


    Feb 21, 2006
    That's probably why. The tapers on my bass are exposed an inch or two beyond the saddle.

    Now that the issue is a little more obvious my original question was is there any surefire way to make sure that a set of taper-wound strings will fit my bass?
  10. Sorry, but it couldn't be that simple:meh:. I actually pulled out my Jazz and looked and the tapers DO cross the saddles. Will the bass intonate?
  11. Wespe


    Feb 21, 2006
    Now that I think of it, since the fretted notes up by the twelfth fret are so dissonant I'd say that I probably couldn't intonate it without non-taperwound strings on it.

    I think I see where this is going.
  12. You mentioned above that it is new. Before you change the strings, do a setup on it, or have someone else do a setup if you aren't comfortable doing it. I rather think your problem is intonation, not taperwounds. I could be wrong, but I just haven't experienced the same problem. If the bass is out of tune in upper register, that first points to an intonation problem. Again, I apologize if I am beating a dead horse.
  13. Wespe


    Feb 21, 2006
    I don't know if this will help, but I played a D Major Scale starting at the 15th fret on the B String and going up all six strings and coming back down again so you can hear what I'm trying to describe.
  14. I know exactly what you are talking about Wespe. I had this problem on two of my other basses, and I wanted to abandon the idea, but I put a new pair of strings on, still with a tapered B, and its not as bad as before, I also did intonate that sucker the best I could. I might also be the bass, the construction of it. The 2 I had were Ibanez's, both prestige models even, and it still happened. I do understand what you mean though, it sounds so out of tune and chorusey, even if the tuner registers it correctly. I guess try new strings with a good setup, and if that doesnt do it, maybe look at another bass (its hard I know)
  15. Hey man, maybe I can be of some help to you!

    I use Dean Markley SR2000s and I love those strings and will neve rplay anything else!!!! I have tried tons of other kinds but I always came back to them. I use them on my six string RBX JM2 and I love them. Provided you do a proper setup on them.

    I inquired about this problem on many other forums as well and even talked to some ERB players who exclusively use taper and exposed core strings. They said that the closer you move the saddle to the taper the less effect of the warbling you get. So for your tapered strings I would say to move the saddles as far forward as your bridge allows and intonate from there. It has worked for me and the warbling is almost now unnoticeable.

    I'd say try that out, if you don't understand the way i have explained this, PM me and maybe I can help you out further!

    Happy set-uping!!

    And btw setups are not hard, anyone can do it, it just takes some time, experimenting, a couple of hours or stripped screws and some shot nerves as well :smug:

    haha anyways


  16. Thats so funny, those are the exact strings I just threw on my ATK 305 and no warbling with the B. The strings are amazing!
  17. I´m using SR2000s on my L-2000 and my Yamaha as well - great sound, no problems at all. Do I see a pattern here? :)