i always wanted to play bass... i play several other instruments but there is something about bass that plays deep within me... it makes me feel like my hurdy gurdy... you just feel the vibes inside. So i bought an inexpensive Epiphone gs short scale. It has round wrapped strings i do not like the feel of them. I think it keeps me from playing ... i am not gigging and i am 69 yo and retired (ie fixed income). what economy flat strings would you all suggest... i really think the black ones look cool but do they hold up? just want to be ready for that big national break ... LOL i play all genre of music.
If by "black ones" you mean tapewounds, then I can attest to the fact that they last a good long time. Not the cheapest, but when you figure they'll be on your bass for 10 years... I use them on fretless so can't really say how they hold up to fretted boards. There are several makers and flavors to chose from. Look up the Tapewound Club here.
Tapewound strings not only look interesting, they also sound and feel quite different. They feel softer to the touch and more flexible, easier to play while flatwound are the opposite. Tapewound strings are said to last a very long time. Sound can be compared here:
Welcome to the forum. I see you signed up almost a year ago. Was this your first post? I hear what you're saying and asking. Perhaps my answer will be a little more complicated than the question asks for, but I hope you can bear with me, even if I go "off the reservation" a bit. Like you, I play several other instruments. Actually, I'm primarily a trumpet player, not that much younger than you, semi retired now in my hopefully last career back to teaching and playing music (again). I played bass in a 60's rock group then didn't touch it for over 40 years and, probably like you bought my first bass just to mess around. About 18 months ago I became serious and as I can see my trumpet days are numbers (it's a super physical instrument unless you're gifted with magic chops that make it easy) I've been working on my serious bass chops. I tend to like musical theater venues and I'm working toward getting some work in that area on bass now. As I said, I got serious about bass 18 months ago and bought my first 5 string 14 months ago (and am just now really comfortable with 5ers...Took some time). If you're a musician already you know that any instrument is about learning the nuances of the instrument itself and becoming acclimated to it. Do you play guitar already? Like you, I was kind of put off by round wound strings. They were rough and at first it felt like they were scraping skin off my fingers. Eventually I got used to them and actually like many different brands and types within the brands. The one thing that has helped me and I use it regularly on some strings is a product called "Finger-Ease". It is a string lubricant. And while it is a spray, I prefer to wipe it on with a sponge applicator (like you use to apply shoe polish). This makes it much smoother and easier not only with the left hand movement but with right hand plucking, though I'm sure some folks don't/won't like the feel of the slickness. I only use it on some strings, and only when I think it's needed and probably only apply it every couple weeks. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...MIi6CS8t7m4gIVBcpkCh1neQqfEAQYASABEgKNZvD_BwE I've just put my first set of flatwound strings on a bass just yesterday and find them to be a mixed bag. While they are indeed smoother than rounds, I find that there is enough additional surface tension to create "stiction" and make it more difficult to get around. I'm not sure what other instruments you play, but you've probably already discovered with 4 string bass you have to be able to get around the neck. I don't want to be impeded in that motion. I also don't know if there is such a thing as a "budget" flatwound. Others may have suggestions. As an alternative and compromise between flats and rounds are "half-rounds", sometimes also called "pressurewounds". I've not tried any of them but some guys really like them. GHS Pressurewounds are probably where I would tell you to start. They aren't too expensive. Besides, unlike guitar strings that (for some,like me) need changing ever 3-6 weeks, bass strings can last months or even years. While you can find strings costing $16 or $17, even moving up to strings that cost $25 shouldn't break the bank- and there are a lot of strings in that price range. I know I've thrown a lot of stuff out there, but I figured the thread needed a conversation started. So forgive me for the ramblings. Looking forward to hearing more from you.
Ive got black tapewounds on my shortscale epiphone eb0 (d'addario ETB92S medium gauge). About $35 but they should last years. Feel nice to my fingers and little less clank than stock roundwounds.
thanks for the replies... after much discussion with music store people. It got a bit confusing with everyone really having an opinion. from get flat wounds to half rounds... to tapes are not bright enough. but i like the deep dark sound to me that is bass. so i went with these a brand that has been around for a while. and what the heck i do not for see any stadium concerts.. *L* now to just get them on. i have always hated restringing anything... i want them on perfect. To Vindi... this was indeed my first post thank you for the welcome.
These are quite thick. I had to enlarge some of the nut slots when I put tapewound on my Squier Jazz and these were .050, .065, .085, .105, .135(La Bella). It was no big deal, I did it with a nail file. I love the sound and feel of these strings. They are not coming down.
^^^ Yeah, OP, get yourself some emery boards and make sure the strings are seated fully in the nut slots. I've had two nut edges chip off in the past -E string side- due to the larger string diameter, 60-115 LaBellas.
hmmm or bring them to "Schmitt Music" a local music shop and have them do it... plus check intonation and general setup....
I do my set-up myself, all of it. It's dead easy. Learned on YouTube. Intonation will be off with the new strings, that's inevitable since they are different in thickness and flexibility from whatever was there before.
no longer have the patience at my age.... by the way my E string mics out to slightly over .11 something.... i did not use my digital caliper.
Brought my Rotosound Tapes to my local music store for installation.... was surprised to find out the G string was .65 whereas it is usually .45 ... my guy said it was the one that was the most oversized ... I would have thought it would be the E string.
I want to take a moment to address the "senior citizen" thing for a moment and go off on a bit of a tangent... I've been suffering from some arthritis in both hands for about 5 years. I'd let my weight get a bit out of hand and started the "keto" diet on Dec 29th. While I have lost a significant amount of weight since that time, the one remarkable thing about the diet is that I have also seen a significant reduction in "inflammation" in areas of my body, my hands having the most noticeable change. I would get up in the morning and have to sort of work my hands closed. They were quite stiff. It was almost painful to play guitar, but they did loosen up after doing some warmups. While I still do some warmups for coordination and speed I no longer have to do them to alleviate the stiffness before playing. My daughter is like the "Keto Guru" and had been nagging me for over a year to do this diet. I tried once last year, didn't do it right and was unsuccessul. I've also combined the diet with "intermittent fasting". I also, for the first few weeks logged calories but stopped after a month. In the first 3 weeks I had lost 19 pounds and on May first reached the target I thought would take until November. Just wanted to throw that in for folks who just might be motivated to lose weight but see it taking forever to see a bump in the scale. While off topic a bit, I thought this might be tangentially related.
I always felt the G string was "out of tone" in comparison to the others in regular sets, with a distinctive edge to it. I suppose this big .65 is meant to mitigate this somehow. La Bella has sets starting at .60 in a similar fashion. I would be tempted to try it but since tapewound strings last a lifetime, I'll have to leave that to my successor. How sad
Not a fan of tapes myself, but I love low tension flats! I've been using Dunlops, which now come in short and medium scale light gauges, and they're very light, slinky, and sound very thumpy and cool when dead.
Just got back from the local luthier... got to say with just noodling at the music store I love them already sweet velvety tones nothing metallic sounding I made the right choice. They look good too with red body and the black pickguard. Thanks for the input. Luthier said the nut took a lot of filing... they reset the intonation and checked every thing else . Anybody have insight why the EB0 doesn’t fit a standard gig bag? Just a fat head... I guess!
Black strings on a cherry red bass will definitely look good. I suppose the clover tuners make the whole headstock to wide. I have that same situation with that stupidly large headstock on my Jazz Bass, so it has a case.