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Strings that sound and feel like Dunlop Super Bright Nickels

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by JimmyM, Jul 13, 2020.


  1. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Been jamming a lot on my 5-string over the past few days. I don't like playing it live very much (though I will if I have to) but I've been enjoying it at home. I also have a 4-string that's very similar with the same EMG PJ pickups and BQC preamp, so I plugged it in and WHOA!!! It was considerably louder than the 5. For about an hour I was perplexed why it would be so much louder when everything was the same.

    Then it dawned on me...everything ISN'T the same. My 5 has Dunlop Super Bright Nickels, and due to the E string always breaking on me when I try to put it into the Sperzel tuner vs the Schallers on the 5, I had to leave the D'addario XL's on the 4. Yeah, that'll do it. It's not a subtle volume difference, either. The XL's are noticeably louder.

    Doesn't bother me so much that the XL's are so much louder, but what does bother me is that I love Dunlop SBN's so much and they don't make the E with a shorter speaking length so it'll fit in the Sperzel. So I'll probably live with it, but if any of you know what kind of strings have a similar feel and sound to the SBN's, I could be talked into trying them provided they'll fit into the Sperzel without breaking. I heard DR has a set that's similar but I don't know which.

    So if anyone can suggest something similar, please let me know, and also if you can tell me length from ball end to the end of the speaking length on the tuner side, it would help me decide whether they'd be worth it to try.

    To sum it up...they need to come with a 40 G and no bigger than a 100 E, low tension, similar sound and output to Dunlop SBN's, and not be ridiculous expensive. TIA!
     
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  2. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    I wonder if someone smarter than I am could explain why thay is. They're both nickel wound with a steel core, right? I wonder why one would be so much louder. Interesting....
     
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  3. Let me ask YOU the question...

    What winding length (ball end to taper or silk) does that particular bass need to fit properly? What's the minimum? And what's the maximum?
     
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  4. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Good question... best I can figure with the string on it and this stiff as hell tape measure is 35 1/2" min, 36 1/2" max.
     
  5. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    I imagine between the lower tension and the different alloy makeup, that would cause it.
     
  6. Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, there aren't too many options for strings with winding length in that specific range, let alone finding one that's similar to Dunlop SBN both in tone and feel.
     
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  7. If the info on string winding lengths on Fret Nation is accurate, Fender's "long scale" is 36.5". Fender 7250's come in a 40-100 set, so maybe they could be an option? I have never tried them - or the Dunlop strings that you like - so I really can't comment on whether or not they meet your requirements for sound and feel!
     
  8. As far as I know, that info is slightly dated. D'Addario changed the winding length on their "long scale" from 36.5" to 37.1" a while back. Fender-branded strings, now being made by D'A, are also 37.1". The last two sets of Fender 9050 flats I had were 37.1".
     
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  9. HaphAsSard

    HaphAsSard

    Dec 1, 2013
    Italia
    Neither company specifies as much for the relevant sets, but Warwick and Pyramid long-scale strings have been anecdotally reported as being quite short (36" and 36-1/2" respectively). Worth a try, or an email to the manufacturer(s). I've no idea as to how they compare to Dunlop Super Bright Nickels tone-wise:

    Warwick Yellow Label - Bass String Sets - Nickel Plated Steel
    https://www.amazon.com/Warwick-Yellow-Medium-Electric-String/dp/B0002GVAWO
    https://www.thomannmusic.com/warwick_41210ml_yellowlabel_ebasssaiten.htm

    Warwick RED Strings - Bass String Sets - Nickel-Plated Steel
    https://www.thomannmusic.com/warwick_46210_red_strings_nickel.htm
    In praise of Warwick Red Label NICKELS

    PYRAMID maximum performance strings - Bass, Nickel Plated Steel, Solo, tiefe Basstöne
    https://www.thomannmusic.com/pyramid_medium_nps.htm
    Pyramid Nickel Plated Steel Bass Guitar Strings 40-100
    Pyramid Nickel Plated Steel Bass Guitar Strings 40-95
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2020
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  10. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Interesting...was reading about the Red Label, and while the price is great, they don't sound like my kind of strings. They sound like they could have been had I stuck to the XL's, but I really love the low tension of the SBN's. Would you happen to know about the tension of the Yellow Labels?
     
  11. HaphAsSard

    HaphAsSard

    Dec 1, 2013
    Italia
    Afraid not. Reviews are few and far between and make no mention of tension. I would have linked to the .095 low E set, but those have a .035 G.
     
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  12. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    35 G is not out of the question, bro. Honestly, if SBN's came in a 35-95 set, I could be tempted to get them.
     
  13. HaphAsSard

    HaphAsSard

    Dec 1, 2013
    Italia
    Oh, in that case, the 35-95 Yellow Label set is the 41230 L 4
    Warwick Yellow Label - Bass String Sets - Nickel Plated Steel
    Haven't found it on Thomann nor Amazon, but have here
    https://shop.framuswarwickusa.com/41230-l-4-035095-p501.aspx

    [For completeness' sake, or to whomever else it may concern:
    the Red Label nickel 35-95 set is the 46230 L 4
    Warwick RED Strings - Bass String Sets - Nickel-Plated Steel
    https://www.thomannmusic.com/warwick_46230_red_strings_nickel.htm
    https://shop.framuswarwickusa.com/46230-l-4-035095-p546.aspx

    and these are the Framus/Warwick USA webshop links for the 40-100 sets:
    https://shop.framuswarwickusa.com/41210-ml-4-040100-p497.aspx
    https://shop.framuswarwickusa.com/46210-ml-4-040100-p538.aspx ]
     
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  14. Mildew Jones

    Mildew Jones

    Dec 18, 2014
    Jimmy, have you tried these?
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    These to me are like upscale Jim Dunlops, sound and feel better, don't get sticky when sweaty. The price is right ($22.99-$24.99), come in the gauge you're looking for, couldn't tell you about length/wrap, etc.
    Good Luck,
    MJ
     
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  15. sonojono

    sonojono Supporting Member

    I feel like you’re thinking about DR Nickel LoRiders
     
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  16. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Thx guys...I guess it was the LoRiders I was thinking of, but the Pure Blues seem cool, too. Unfortunately, both have too long a speaking length for me to be comfy with putting them on this bass.
     
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  17. MDBass

    MDBass Supporting Member

    Nov 7, 2012
    Los Angeles, CA
    Endorsing Artist: Dingwall-Fender-Bergantino-Dunlop-Tech 21-Darkglass-Nordstrand
    Yep, DR Sunbeams are the closest thing to SB Nickels.
     
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  18. mark roberts

    mark roberts Supporting Member

    Nov 13, 2004
    Lawrence, KS
    Curt Mangan RW Nickels.
     
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  19. I feel for ya Jimmy. Dunlop SBNs are my favourite round too.
     
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  20. Do they come with the winding length (ball end to taper) between 35.5" and 36.5"? That's what @JimmyM needs.
     
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