Psst... Ready to join TalkBass and start posting, make new friends, sell your gear, and more?  Register your free account in 30 seconds.

Student May Be Expelled for Rap...

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Hategear, Nov 8, 2003.


  1. Hategear

    Hategear Workin' hard at hardly workin'.

    Apr 6, 2001
    Appleton, Swissconsin
  2. It's just rap, comeon people these days get offended if someone says the S word, to describe a mound of manure.
     
  3. Wrong Robot

    Wrong Robot Guest

    Apr 8, 2002
    That principle sounds like a real (expletive)
     
  4. there was a rap trio that was in our school once and they all got expelled/sued when they made a song about raping all of our high school cheerleaders, and then killing them.

    Different situation, of course.
     
  5. yoshi

    yoshi

    Jul 12, 2002
    England, London
    I'm totally backing the principal. What kind of a moron would expect to get away with such an act?

    The kids parents would have the principal on strings if he'd released a rap cd about how gay their son is for example.

    Expel the little punk.
     
  6. Justin V

    Justin V

    Dec 27, 2000
    Alameda, CA
    They're gonna try to expel the kid for not being all that creative? What the hell? The fact that someone could be punished at school for music they made is flat out wrong IMO, I don't care how old the kid is. Sure, the kid's a little immature punk, I've met very few 15 year olds who aren't (myself included at the time). This kid's apparently more dangerous because why? He got his hands on some recording equipment and made a (probably) lame rap cd? Gimme a break. It's things like this that make me glad to be in college.
     
  7. Ty McNeely

    Ty McNeely

    Mar 27, 2000
    TX

    Make a rap CD with lyrics regarding killing the president of your university or it's regents and then come back and talk. Threats aren't taken like they used to be, especially after Columbine.


    It's the principle of it people--why the hell would you put that in music?

    I'm not saying that rap artists aren't creative, but you must be kidding me if you think that some kid saying he's gonna "beat your ass down" is "original" or "creative." In my eyes, its a major lack thereof.
     
  8. Nick Gann

    Nick Gann Talkbass' Tubist in Residence

    Mar 24, 2002
    Silver Spring, MD
    Maybe he uses music to let out agression and anger. Maybe it helps him relieve stress to rap about doing actions he will never actually do, nor plans to do. Should we sue or expell every student who has a fantasy about killing their principal, or blowing up their school? Then only difference is that he wrote it down and sang it to a beat. If having a fantasy to kill or destroy is as bad as the real thing, lock me up, along with every other student in the world.
     
  9. Bob Clayton

    Bob Clayton Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Aug 14, 2001
    Deptford, NJ
    this is just dumb...

    it is sad what the world has come to today...that "music" now needs to be about killing people...doing drugs...and having sex with everyone...

    makes me wish i grew up way before i did
     
  10. Justin V

    Justin V

    Dec 27, 2000
    Alameda, CA
    At this school, I probably could (though I wouldn't, the president of the Uni. seems to be a pretty cool guy). This school's huge on the whole free speech thing. However, if I did it would probably be looked at as (and be, most likely) completely uncreative and moronic, like I said in my first post.
     
  11. Aussie Mark

    Aussie Mark I come from a land down under Supporting Member

    Oct 26, 2002
    Sydney, Oz
    Endorsing Artist: Fender; O'Neill Amps; Cave Passive Pedals
    I agree with the topic, without having to read the link.

    "Student May Be Expelled for Rap"

    Kid's lucky he only got expelled. Rap deserves the death penalty.
     
  12. Bob Clayton

    Bob Clayton Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Aug 14, 2001
    Deptford, NJ
    :D :D

    i think i just found a new sig
     
  13. Ty McNeely

    Ty McNeely

    Mar 27, 2000
    TX
    A distributed rap CD is nothing like a personal journal or internal thoughts, but after a bit of retrospection, maybe it should be considered such. I have to admit that I have never once fantasized about killing someone even though I strongly dislike them. I have to worry about those who do.

    At any length, the kid was stupid just for distributing the CD.
     
  14. Man, you need to experience some good rap. Everyone I know who hates rap hates the new R&B and popized rap. All the best rap came out of the late 80s and early 90s. NWA, Cypress Hill, Alkoholics...
     
  15. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA
    What happened to the good ol' days when rap was about your shoes, and rockin' the party, and waving your hands around in an irresponsible fashion. :meh: :p
     
  16. I think you are mistaking rap for New Kids on the Block.
     
  17. Wrong Robot

    Wrong Robot Guest

    Apr 8, 2002
    Clap your hands everybody, if you've got what it takes, 'cause I'm Kurtis Blow and I want you to know that THESE ARE THE BREAKS.

    brakes on a bus brakes on a car
    breaks to make you a superstar
    breaks to win or breaks to lose, but these are breaks to rock your shoes
    and these are the breaks

    break it up break it up break it up
    break down!

    //

    If your woman steps out with another man
    (that's the breaks, that's the breaks"
    And she runs off with him to japan
    (that's the breaks, that's the breaks)
    The IRS says they want to chat
    (that's the breaks, that's the breaks)
    and you can't explain why you claimed your cat
    (that's the breaks, that's the breaks)
    an Ma' bell sends you a whopping bill
    (that's the breaks, that's the breaks)
    With 18 phonecalls to brazil
    (that's the breaks, that's the breaks)
    and you borrowed MONEY from the mob
    (that's the breaks, that's the breaks)
    and yesterday you lost your job
    (that's the breaks, that's the breaks)
    And these are the breaks

    Break it up, break it up, break it up, break it up!

    //
    Throw your hands up in the sky
    And wave 'em 'round from side to side
    And if youdeserve a break tonight
    Somebody say alright!
    (All right) Say ho-oo!
    (Ho-oo!) And you don't stop
    Keep on, somebody scream!
    (Owwwww!) Break down!

    Breaks on a stage, breaks on a screen
    Breaks to make your wallet lean
    Breaks run cold and breaks run hot
    Some folks got 'em and some have not
    But these are the breaks
    Break it up, break it up, break it up!
    Break down!

    To the girl in brown, stop messing around
    (Break it up, break it up)
    To the guy in blue, whatcha gonna do?
    To the girl in green, don't be so mean
    And the guy in red, say what I said
    Break down!

    Brakes on a plane, brakes on a train
    Breaks to make you go insane
    Breaks in love, breaks in war
    But we got the breaks to get you on the floor
    And these are the breaks
    Break it up, break it up, break it up!
    Break down! Yo!

    Just do it, just do it, just do it, do it, do it!
    Just do it, just do it, just do it, do it, do it!
    Just do it, just do it, just do it, do it, do it!
    Just do it, just do it, just do it, do it, do it!

    You say last week you met the perfect guy
    (That's the breaks, that's the breaks)
    And he promised you the stars in the sky
    He said his Cadilac was gold
    But he didn't say it was ten years old
    He tok you out to the Red Coach grill
    But he forgot the cash and you paid the bill
    And he told you the story of his life
    But he forgot the part about...his wife! Huh! Huh!
    Well, these are the breaks!
    Break it up, break it up, break it up!
    Break down!
     
  18. Bryan R. Tyler

    Bryan R. Tyler TalkBass: Usurping My Practice Time Since 2002 Staff Member Administrator Gold Supporting Member

    May 3, 2002
    Connecticut
    There's just as much good rap out there now as bad rap. Offensiveness really doesn't have much to do with rap itself-just some of the people who make it. Heck, I have yet to hear a single rap song that has lyrics that are as offensive as the average death metal song.
     
  19. cheezewiz

    cheezewiz

    Mar 27, 2002
    Ohio
    Little punk deserves to be expelled. There is such a thing as consequences to your actions.
    Free speech, is not always entirely free.
     
  20. Being a news article, I'm sure they're presenting the story without context. People don't just start threatening people spontaneously. There's usually a history/reason for it and I'm sure that the rap CD is only a flashpoint. I bet the students has a pretty long "rap" sheet. :smug: