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Students of American History - is this true?

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by matthewfoote, Mar 28, 2004.

  1. Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846, John F Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946. Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860, John F Kennedy was elected President in 1960. Both had a passion for Civil rights. Both had wives who lost their children while living in the White House. Both Presidents were shot on a Friday. Both presidents were shot in the head.

    Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy. Kennedy's secretary was named Lincoln. Both were assassinated by Southerners. Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson. Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln was born in 1808. Lyndon Johnson who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

    John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839. Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939. Both assassins were known by their three names. Both names are composed of fifteen letters.

    Lincoln was shot at the theatre named 'Ford'. Kennedy was shot in a Lincoln made by 'Ford'. Lincoln was shot in a theatre and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse. Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a theatre. Booth and Oswald were both assassinated before their trials.

    A week before Lincoln was shot he was in Monroe, Maryland. A week before Kennedy was shot he was in Marylin Monroe!.

    Spooky Huh!

  2. JMX

    JMX Vorsprung durch Technik

    Sep 4, 2000
    Cologne, Germany
    You can find a pattern in anything if you select the right things. The possible significance of such pattern is another matter too. Rubbish IMO, unless you take things like Illuminati for real...

    If this turns political, I might have to close this.
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  3. odie

    odie Supporting Member

    Ah yes every ones favorite club. The Illuminati.
  4. nonsqtr

    nonsqtr The emperor has no clothes!

    Aug 29, 2003
    Burbank CA USA
    There's all kinds of interesting folklore in American history. Ever read HP Lovecraft?
  5. bassmonkeee

    bassmonkeee Supporting Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Decatur, GA
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  6. MJ5150

    MJ5150 Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Apr 12, 2001
    Olympia, WA
    They both wore boxers, and ate oatmeal for breakfast too!

  7. Nice Marylin connection, :)
  8. John Wilkes Booth had a brother named Telephone, Lee Harvey Oswald once dated a girl named Cookie. :D

    Mike :D

    Just kidding, Mattew. ;)

  9. To me the Discordian Society is by far the most interesting of the Illuminati! ;)
  10. Bayou_Brawler

    Bayou_Brawler The most hurtful thing ever realized

    Oct 23, 2003
    Ann Arbor, MI
    you just blew my mind :hyper:
  11. Ed Fuqua

    Ed Fuqua

    Dec 13, 1999
    Chuck Sher publishes my book, WALKING BASSICS:The Fundamentals of Jazz Bass Playing.
    There was a bluegrass comedy team called Homer and Jethro that had a very amusing routine based on that urban myth that related the "strange coincidences" between LBJ and Batman.
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  12. I live in fear of the Accordian Society. Damn bow ties...
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  13. Bard2dbone


    Aug 4, 2002
    Arlington TX
    Classic. :D

    Has anyone else read or tried to read the Illuminatus trilogy? Warped. Seriously warped. Cool, but warped.

    Every conspiracy ever is true. All of them. No matter how wierd.

    I got it because a friend told me about the many people who all show up to assassinate Kennedy. Several of them are congratulated by co-conspirators and have to confess that someone else took the shot. The final solution is

    A. The most elaborate suicide in history. Kennedy himself did it.
    B. A Tibetan holy man living under Dealey plaza, the Dealey Lama.
    C. A hitman hired by the 'John Dillinger Died For Your Sins Society'
    D. Aliens. Really.

    Go ahead, pick. :)
  14. thrash_jazz


    Jan 11, 2002
    Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    Artist: JAF Basses, Circle K Strings
    I tried... couldn't get into it, although I did get through (and understand) the Schrodinger's Cat trilogy...
  15. Bard2dbone


    Aug 4, 2002
    Arlington TX
    I think I remember that one. If it is the series I'm thinking of I dug it.
  16. nonsqtr

    nonsqtr The emperor has no clothes!

    Aug 29, 2003
    Burbank CA USA
    There was this box game called Nuclear War that had a lot of Illuminati characters in it. I especially remember the Gnomes of Zurich. Great little game. "100 Megatons, destroys the world and everything in it". Oops.
  17. I read it years ago. It was kind of interesting but very out there. I most vividly remember Nazi's rising out of a lake. Bizarre book.
  18. thrash_jazz


    Jan 11, 2002
    Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    Artist: JAF Basses, Circle K Strings
    It was the one with a seemingly random group of events eventually menaing something (poking fun at quantum physics principles)... with bad-pun character names like Justin Case, Marvin Gardens, Markoff Chaney and Bertha Van Nation.

    Ring any bells?
  19. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    Not really, Matthew.

    I had a college course, "Politics and History of the US South". It was taught by one of the foremost experts on the South and US history, Dr. James Roark.

    This guy read the original diaries and journals of Southern plantation owners/politicians as well as studying documents/diaries/jounals from the North.
    (Among the themes on his lecture tours was one called, "“Black Slaveholders in the Appalachian South").

    His exhausting research made it very clear that Lincoln was more concerned about preservation of the Union as opposed to the South's main concern - states rights. Slavery was just a ancillary issue to Lincoln, according to Dr. Roark.
    However, slavery became a good political rallying point as the war went on because it was more emotional than the legal "flavor" of states rights.
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  20. rickbass

    Thanks for the clarification.

    This is why I asked it, the whole thing did seem a bit much and the sentance you clarify is one that is open to spin and the re writing of history over time with rose tinted glasses.
    Whereas the dates are harder to refute unless they are of course factually incorrect.



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