Subway 2x10 vs Markbass 2x12

JMO, but if I was a "hobbiest /weekend warrior", the Mark bass would suit fine. I'm sure it will sound good, just like a decent bass cab should. No knock on MB, but If I was going on tour, you'd better believe I'd opt for the Mesa.
This is pretty subjective. I happen to like both and own both. By the way, take a look at the list of MarkBass endorsees.
Some of the best of the best.
I'm sure the same applies to Mesa. Both excellent products, but different.
 
This is pretty subjective. I happen to like both and own both. By the way, take a look at the list of MarkBass endorsees.
Some of the best of the best.
I'm sure the same applies to Mesa. Both excellent products, but different.
I was asked an opinion. I gave it. It’s not going to change. I’m also not going on tour any time soon..LOL!!! Have a good one.
 
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Happened to stumble upon this while researching for myself. I have to admit, the PJB sounded best to my old, wore out ears, the Bergantino also sounded pretty good. The Mesa was at the bottom of the list for me. Of course, that's just my opinion. That PJB, though...

 
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Just a quick comment about sensitivity specifications…

For bass guitar, to even reasonably accurately represent real world sensitivity, the bandwidth needs to cover the entire spectrum of fundamentals plus at least the 3rd harmonic. This is where ~90% of the bass guitar’s useable energy sits.

Using 1kHz places the measurement outside the majority of where the speaker is being used for the intended application and while it might result in a higher number, this number does not reflect the spectrum that the speaker is being used in.
I’m with you but, to be 100.1% honest, we don’t know where MB measures the SPL of its cabs.
We may speculate that it is at 1kHz but there are no credited TB members which are also MB’s employees/designers (the same applies to other brands) which can provide further clarifications on what their internal testing and measuring procedures are.
Certainly Mesa proudly states what they correctly do and everybody else, for correctness and completeness, should do the same, but .. maybe MB does this as well .. who knows?
Being open and substantially correct in this regard is certainly a merit for Mesa however.

In any case, super good American stuff, also sold at a good price in the USA, when imported in Europe becomes immediately much more expensive making it almost unbuyable unfortunately; hence, I, as a poor hobbyist, although not so bad at playing (allow me to say so), will likely accept to buy a cab which may be slightly less sensitive than another one (presumably) if I can purchase it at half of the price (in Europe) of the better one.

This for the sake of completeness and supposed internationality if the forum.

Cheers 😊
 
I’m with you but, to be 100.1% honest, we don’t know where MB measures the SPL of its cabs.
We may speculate that it is at 1kHz but there are no credited TB members which are also MB’s employees/designers (the same applies to other brands) which can provide further clarifications on what their internal testing and measuring procedures are.
Certainly Mesa proudly states what they correctly do and everybody else, for correctness and completeness, should do the same, but .. maybe MB does this as well .. who knows?
Being open and substantially correct in this regard is certainly a merit for Mesa however.

In any case, super good American stuff, also sold at a good price in the USA, when imported in Europe becomes immediately much more expensive making it almost unbuyable unfortunately; hence, I, as a poor hobbyist, although not so bad at playing (allow me to say so), will likely accept to buy a cab which may be slightly less sensitive than another one (presumably) if I can purchase it at half of the price (in Europe) of the better one.

This for the sake of completeness and supposed internationality if the forum.

Cheers 😊
I'm French, and I think it's logical that US gear is more exepensive in Europe (extra costs etc.)
I even think that it's a good thing: it encourrages us to buy more local. Fortunately, we've got lots of great European brands to choose from, not only Markbass. Barefaced, GR Bass and Jad Freer make super quality cabs.
 
I'm French, and I think it's logical that US gear is more exepensive in Europe (extra costs etc.)
I even think that it's a good thing: it encourrages us to buy more local. Fortunately, we've got lots of great European brands to choose from, not only Markbass. Barefaced, GR Bass and Jad Freer make super quality cabs.
I've forgotten Guitar Sound System in France, famous for the Sumo power amps, they also make great and affordable bass cabs.
 
I'm French, and I think it's logical that US gear is more exepensive in Europe (extra costs etc.)
I even think that it's a good thing: it encourrages us to buy more local. Fortunately, we've got lots of great European brands to choose from, not only Markbass. Barefaced, GR Bass and Jad Freer make super quality cabs.
Yes.
Yesterday I got an email from Marc Vanderkley who told me that their published SPL value is obtained by averaging the measurements in the 500 Hz to 2.5 kHz range.
I have to thank @agedhorse and the TB community for acquiring the necessary knowledge which allowed me to ask the right questions to Marc.
The email was quite explanatory and Vanderkley’s cabs are made in the Netherlands and very nice sounding (see Scott Devine endorsement for instance).
There was a couple of their 2x12 second-hand cabinets (practically new) on Mercatino Musicale in Italy which I wanted to acquire but they lasted .. one day 😄
 
Just note that the (4 string) bass guitar fundamentals run 40Hz-400Hz. The second harmonic range is 80Hz-800Hz and the third harmonic range is 120Hz-1.2kHz.

IMO, this represents about 80-90% of the bass guitar signal, which really need to be included in the averaging in order to reasonably accurately represent a speaker’s sensitivity.