I just saw a Cingular (sp??) commercail featuring sugar ray and asking would your parents let you hang out with these guys or something like that, and its showing pictures of the sugar ray guys being all "punk" and "rock-star"-ish or whatever. Considering sugar ray's a pop band, I don't quite get it... I heard back in the day they used to be a real hard, metal-type band, and Mark mcGrath has been on all those groupie porn videos and stuff - dont ask me how i know - but still, sugar ray is just about as pop-rock as it gets nowadays. If the old stuff is true, talk about selling out!! They seem like really cool guys, but I'm still disappointed in them. What are all of your thoughts on the band?