Sunbeams or TIjazz rounds?

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by Levin, Jul 19, 2013.

  1. Levin

    Levin

    Oct 30, 2012
    Sweden
    Hi! Read a lot here, have tested TI flats and all DR strings except their flats and sunbeams, I don't care about the price and am going to put them on one stingray and on warwick fortress one passive, both which I play a lot near the bridge (thus I want quite loose strings) but I guess Sunbeams are quite loose, as are high and fat beams! The jazz rounds seems very loose too of course but that's more expected.
    What I seek is opinions from people who have tested both, tonally and feel, how do they compare? If for example the TI sound better I will buy these as I change nickel strings very very seldom unless they break.
     
  2. Tom Howland

    Tom Howland

    Feb 11, 2003
    :cool:

    I prefer the Sunbeams.
    TI Jazz-rounds are nice, but they die fast.
    I was ready to change them a week after I put them on.
    Lost tone quick.
     
  3. There's quite a difference between those two sets in my opinion.

    Sunbeams are not that far away from regular nickel roundwounds (like d'Addario XLs for example). They are a bit darker than other strings of the same type, and they have a soft feel to them, but it's not a night and day difference.

    On the other hand, TI Jazz Rounds are MUCH darker, and have much less tension than any other string I've tried. The wire they use for the outer winding is quite fine, so they have a really unique feel.
     
  4. lbanks

    lbanks

    Jul 17, 2003
    Ennui, IN USA
    Unlike TI Flats, I'm not a fan of the TI Rounds. Dark sound( a weird, empty sound, IMO) and shorter lived than I expected.
     
  5. LeonD

    LeonD Supporting Member

    I LOVE TI Jazz Rounds. I've tried many different types of DR strings on different basses. They all sounded good but none stood out. Picked up a set of Jazz Rounds on the emporium and felt like my P bass came alive.

    I had played TI Flats exclusively for years. I feel the Rounds are in the same ballpark as the Flats but with more brightness and articulation. I've since put Jazz Rounds on my active bass.

    For the record (and I do think it makes a difference), I'm playing thru a GK head and Berg AE cabs (which all favor upper mids). Maybe the darkness of the strings are offset by the upper mid bias of my rig.

    I'm surprised to hear they die so fast. For the price, I was hopping to get at least six months out of them.
     
  6. Levin

    Levin

    Oct 30, 2012
    Sweden
    I see, thanks! So to sum it up, the TIs have a unique sound that's much darker whilst Sunbeams are just a great (or THE great?) common nickel-plated round?
    When you say that they die after a week, or maybe a while longer, do you mean they lose intonation or just fresh zingyness? I'd rather have a good mellowed dark string than a too bright string that's supposed to be dark. Not saying that Sunbeams wouldn't be dark! But you get the idea.
    As far as your tips go so far I'm thinking about the Sunbeams! I mean, if I find the TIs 'weird, empty' too I wouldn't have wanted to pay so much for them indeed.
    However if they are like the flats except for more articulation I couldn't be happier! I love the tone and feel of the flats.
    LeonD, how long do you usually have TI rounds on before changing them?
    I played nickel lo-riders for maybe 9 months and loved them, but then they snaped, so I like a really mellow dark sounding string, some call it dead, others call it other things. To me that sound is the breaked in sound that's sound so right from a bass, especially two bright ones like stingray and fortress!
     
  7. Troph

    Troph

    Apr 14, 2011
    Kirkland, WA
    If price is no object, then obviously you should just try both, and let us know what you think! ;)
     
  8. Levin

    Levin

    Oct 30, 2012
    Sweden
    Of course I would like a versatile string, as I'm going to play those two basses in a lot of genres, but they are mainly for being smooth (not as much on the warvick but you get the genereal idea) dark sounding, like a bass supposed to sound. No solo performances on either of those, just searcing for warmth and clarity in pending band settings! It's probably going to be the Sunbeams, haha.
     
  9. Levin

    Levin

    Oct 30, 2012
    Sweden
    Haha, why yes indeed I should, Troph. However I'm looking for good strings, not research specimens as many others here have already tested these things and are willing to share their experiences!
     
  10. Troph

    Troph

    Apr 14, 2011
    Kirkland, WA
    Just due to the price difference alone and the fact that roundwound strings don't last forever, fewer have tried the TIs than the DRs. That's what has kept me from trying a set of TI rounds yet.

    I love Sunbeams myself, but I wouldn't really call them "dark" sounding. They're a bit mellower than most nickel rounds, and they have a pleasing warm midrange character. But they're not as dark as flats. I also love the playability which comes from the relatively smooth feel and low tension. They usually last 3-4 months of light to medium playing for me.
     
  11. Levin

    Levin

    Oct 30, 2012
    Sweden
    OK, thanks! Then I guees I'll test Sunbeams and if it's not what I seek, then TIs! : ]
    Great to hear how strings have been for you. I'll just keep the fender flats on the Stingray for a while then! I really like that balanced set.
     
  12. bassobrutto

    bassobrutto Supporting Member

    Mar 2, 2010
    Yellow Springs, Ohio
    I have tried both of the strings you are talking about. I would question the claim above that TI Rounds "die" in a week. The sound they acquire after a week or so IS their sound, i.e., what they are meant to sound like. They are by far the mellowest sounding and smoothest feeling roundwounds out there AFAIK, very different from a "normal" roundwound, about halfway between standard nickel rounds and flats. And if you already like the feel and general vibe of TI Flats, but just want a touch more top end brightness or edge, you will probably like them. Also, if you are afraid of the notoriously low tension, you can get the "super long" set, which has larger gauge strings and feels a bit tighter as a result, about the same as typical TI flats. DR Sunbeams are just a very slightly mellower, more limbre version of "normal" nickel rounds, primarily because they have a round core and not a hexcore.
     
  13. Levin

    Levin

    Oct 30, 2012
    Sweden
    Oh, great, thanks! Now... I'm considering the TIs once more, as they seem to be what I seek! I've wanted to test the DR flats also for sometime, will probably get a set of those instead of 2 sets of TIs, thanks so much for your help!
     
  14. LeonD

    LeonD Supporting Member

    I'm still on my first set. I've only had them a couple of months.

    I'm going to agree with the statement that after a week, the strings develop their sound. My oldest set is a couple of months old now and once the "new brightness" wore off, I haven't noticed any change in tone.

    bassobrutto calls it TI Flats with top end brightness or edge. I'd agree and throw in the word articulation. I would think these would be a natural for anybody that's like TI Flats.
     
  15. Levin

    Levin

    Oct 30, 2012
    Sweden
    Oh, yeah, I guessed they would be something like that, articulate, but you don't know until you tested, do you... and THANK YOU TimoMetzemakers!! Great!
    ...I'm actually going to buy fender flats for both the basses, play those for a while to break them in and then buy TI jazz rounds when I've got less gig-time on those basses! So I don't have to think about playing technique on those right now..
    You have all been very helpful, thank you very much!
     
  16. jeff7bass

    jeff7bass Inactive

    Apr 9, 2009
    I just put Sunbeams on my new Carvin B40 for last weeks gig (because of this thread) and I'm quite pleased with them. There's more heft in the low E and while they're clear, they're to too bright. Easier on my fingers than the strings that came with the bass, which had a grittier sound that I had to tame a bit. A good match for this bass.

    My Peavey (P+J Rock bass) has Low riders and my 1976 Ric has the High Beams.

    :bassist: