Super heavy guage?

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by Only, Jun 23, 2003.

  1. Only

    Only Guest

    Sep 8, 2002
    Warrensburg, MO
    Well, I've got a BTB405, and I was wondering...How heavy of a string guage do you all think I could equip it with before the neck is in danger? I'm seriously considering a custom made set since I can't find anything as heavy as I'm looking for, because I do love the heavy strings so much.

    And on the same note, are there any custom string makers out there who will make me a coated string like Elixirs?
     
  2. rsautrey

    rsautrey Inactive

    Jul 27, 2000
    What tuning will you be using? Standard?
     
  3. Only

    Only Guest

    Sep 8, 2002
    Warrensburg, MO
    Oh, heh..I guess that would help.

    About half the time BEADG (standard) and about half the time ADADG (low two strings drop-tuned a step).
     
  4. rsautrey

    rsautrey Inactive

    Jul 27, 2000
    Now for more questions.....what strings have you tried so far and what were the gauges? I'm really trying to help I swear!!
     
  5. Only

    Only Guest

    Sep 8, 2002
    Warrensburg, MO
    Right now I've still got the Elixirs that came on it on, the guages for those are:

    G .045
    D .065
    A .085
    E .105
    B .130

    I haven't tried anything else since I haven't seen anything heavier on the shelves in stores...Or anywhere, really.

    I'm looking for the heavier strings just because I like the feel so much, I'm not putting a lot of emphasis on the sonic differences.
     
  6. I heard GHS makes the heviest strings, with a 1.15 E
     
  7. Only

    Only Guest

    Sep 8, 2002
    Warrensburg, MO
    I'm actually looking for heavier strings than a .115 E.

    I'm talking super duper heavy.
     
  8. l0calh05t

    l0calh05t Guest

    Oct 14, 2001
    Cottbus, Germany
    have you actually ever tried a .110E ? because that is already a lot and a .115E is even more
     
  9. Only

    Only Guest

    Sep 8, 2002
    Warrensburg, MO
    I've played up to a .110 E, yep. I'm thinking I'd almost like something crazy like .130 or so E...But what would that make my low B? .150?
     
  10. l0calh05t

    l0calh05t Guest

    Oct 14, 2001
    Cottbus, Germany
    Well, Pyramid Strings makes custom gauges up to .215 and you might ask those people who have low f# strings on their 7 or 8 strings where they get their strings
     
  11. Only

    Only Guest

    Sep 8, 2002
    Warrensburg, MO
    But if I string up my BTB with strings that heavy, will it hurt it?
     
  12. l0calh05t

    l0calh05t Guest

    Oct 14, 2001
    Cottbus, Germany
    If you are tuning to E you should probably not try anything more than .120, if you go any higher I think it would significantly shorten the life of the neck
     
  13. xax712

    xax712 Guest

    Dec 25, 2001
    Northwest Arkansas
    I'd definitely give the D'Addario XL1605's a shot man before I started special ordering stuff, I know they aren't as heavy as you mentioned but for around $22, why not at least give them a shot. I love them. Anyway how can you tune a b down to an A and not have that thing flopping all over the place. Especially in a lighter gauge??? I think that would be like playing rubber bands. I heard that Fodera makes custom strings to if that's what you want to do but I'd definitely give the xl's a try. I will mention that's the first set of strings I've ever sought to buy a second set of. Which was this week since I snapped my A string.
    But all the luck to you on finding a heavier gauge than those at a decently affordable price, and coated like Elixer's will probably cost you your left arm, but to each his own.
    Brad
     
  14. Atshen

    Atshen

    Mar 13, 2003
    Grim Cold Québec
    Why would you wanna do that??? Don't you think a .130 is gonna break as soon as you try to tune it to E?
     
  15. redneck2wild

    redneck2wild

    Nov 27, 2002
    Memphis, TN
    You can order several brands of individual strings from www.juststrings.com including some very heavy strings.

    I have a bass I string ADGC and I currently use .145 for the A, .110 for the D, .85 for the G and .70 for the C. This seems to give good string to string balance.
    The heaviest string that I could find on www.juststrings.com is the .145 Ken Smith B.
    I would recommend buying a 4 string set for your higher 4 strings (maybe a .110-.50) and then add a .145 to it.
    Steel strings tend to have more tension than Nickel strings, so that might be something to consider. Other considerations may be core thickness as thicker cores would produce a string that requires more tension.
     
  16. Atshen

    Atshen

    Mar 13, 2003
    Grim Cold Québec
    Maybe you should have two basses (one for each tuning). Your ADADG bass could have something like 45-65-80-120-145. Just a thought. But IMO a 130 tuned to standard E is overkill.
     
  17. Only

    Only Guest

    Sep 8, 2002
    Warrensburg, MO
    Thanks guys.

    I've seen a set somewhere with a .130 E. I *KNOW* I have. Just can't remember where...

    So since .130 would probably not work for the E, I'm thinking:

    G: .50
    D: .70
    A: .90
    E(D): .120
    B(A): .145

    EDIT: Found the .130 low E strings.
     
  18. xax712

    xax712 Guest

    Dec 25, 2001
    Northwest Arkansas
    That's a really big jump in gauge between your A and E strings there man. Good luck, hope you can still move your hands by the time you're 30.
     
  19. Killdar

    Killdar Guest

    Dec 16, 2002
    Portland Maine
    man.....130 is a LOT for an E. .120 sounds good though. The heaviest gauge string I could find at a local shop is .110...but if I'd found heavier I would have bought those.

    maybe I should get a tree-trunk warwick....if I equipped my bass with something like .130, the J-type neck on my bass might snap off hardcore.
     
  20. xax712

    xax712 Guest

    Dec 25, 2001
    Northwest Arkansas
    Something else I forgot to mention is that you might have to take your bass in for a tune up after putting those strings on, that being if you can, I don't know how well a factory set nut will saddle those strings. you might have a hardtime keeping them over the fretboard. Also I'm sure you'll need to adjust the bridge to keep this tuning right up on the fretboard, cause I'm sure this will bend the tar out of your neck and make the farther up the neck you go be out of tune.
    Just thought I'd let you know. And if you knew all this and how to fix it sorry to waste your time.