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sustain effect

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by xcental34x, Nov 26, 2003.


  1. xcental34x

    xcental34x

    Feb 28, 2003
    Memphrica, TN
    What is a good half rackmountable of pedal sustainer/compressor effect? I'm playing in an Indie Rock in drop D and I have a few parts where I need notes to last. If it helps, my full rig will be as follows:
    Nady UHF-10->Ernie Ball Volume Pedal->GK 2001RB (effects loop: Sansamp RBI, Boss NS-50, Boss SE-50)

    If I was to get a half rack, I'd take out the SE-50. Also, if you think there is a better way to connect all those effects besides an effects loop, give me some input, cuz I'm also planning a pedalboard.

    ~Patrick
     
  2. Finger Blister

    Finger Blister

    Jul 8, 2003
    Geez, your the only guy I've heard of who
    has a SE 50 and a NS 50 like I do.

    I don't use "front" end pedals.
    I've tried it for years and pedals just suck.
    More pedals equals more suck.

    In the FX Loop I run a Behringer MDX2200
    (turn gates off!)
    into the SE 50 then to the NS 50
    (threshold: min. / Decay max.) for most sustain.

    If you can't get compression and sustain from
    the SE 50, your not programming it right.

    I'd keep the SE 50 over any pedal.

    I can send you a bunch of programs to upload for
    the SE 50 if you'd like.
     
  3. xcental34x

    xcental34x

    Feb 28, 2003
    Memphrica, TN
    Well, I dont own all this stuff yet. It is pure speculation until I get the money. First I gotta get the GK. But I can upload programs into the SE-50? Like what sort? Can I create a Sustainer with this thing? I heard a tech 21 midi mouse makes a good footswitch for the SE-50. Can I use it to turn the sustain on and off?

    ~Patrick
     
  4. Finger Blister

    Finger Blister

    Jul 8, 2003
    You can use a Midi switcher (Midi Mouse)

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    or
    to simpify you can use an 2 Unlatched switches
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    for program up & down and a Latched Switch
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    for On/Off (no batteries or power required).

    Midi Switcher Footboard with Pedals
    like the FB 1010 ($110):

    [​IMG]

    And if you want to go 'Vintage' all the way
    the Boss FC 50 midi switchboard with Boss
    pedals...

    Will allow for certain effects parimeter's to be
    pedal controlled, including volume.
    There are several different ways to achieve
    'sustain' and have it be pedal controlled.

    I have a set of 100 programs designed for
    electric guitar; 100 programs of instrument/studio/stage
    reverbs; and about 30 Bass specific programs, including half step down (Eb...) for 4 string.

    I've downloaded some of them many moons ago.
    The sites no longer exist.
    Plus I've saved my own favorites over time.

    What types of programs??
    Here's a list:

    BOSS SE 50
    List of Program Names from se50gt.syx file:
    (SE 50 Electric Guitar Programs)

    1. MadMetal - GUITAR MULTI
    2. HardDriv'in - GUITAR MULTI
    3. CrunchSolo - GUITAR MULTI
    4. CuttingSolo - GUITAR MULTI
    5. ComprssoCRs - GUITAR MULTI
    6. GuitarLeslie - ROTARY
    7. Jazz'in - KEYBOARD MULTI 1
    8. ConcertHall - GUITAR MULTI
    9. Boston Stack - GUITAR MULTI
    10. DelayedD-Tune - PITCH SHIFTER
    11. Truth - PITCH SHIFTER
    12. Leadelay - GUITAR MULTI
    13. Velo Sparkle - VOCAL MULTI
    14. HighPunch - GUITAR MULTI
    15. MetalFlange - GUITAR MULTI
    16. BluesCrunch - GUITAR MULTI
    17. ChorusPickin' - GUITAR MULTI
    18. Mild Grit - GUITAR MULTI
    19. Speed Metal - GUITAR MULTI
    20. Sweet Lead - GUITAR MULTI
    21. SuperGuitars - VOCAL MULTI
    22. Hoedown - GUITAR MULTI
    23. ES335ocaster - KEYBOARD MULTI 1
    24. WhiteReptile - GUITAR MULTI
    25. Pan Delay - MULTI DELAY
    26. CRES. Delay - MULTI DELAY
    27. PingPong DL. - MULTI DELAY
    28. Space CH. 1 - SPACE CHORUS
    29. Space CH. 2 - SPACE CHORUS
    30. Large Hall - HALL 1
    31. Dark Hall - HALL 1
    32. Bright Hall - HALL 2
    33. Cathedral - HALL 2
    34. Live House - ROOM
    35. Mid Hall - HALL 1
    36. 4 Pt. D-Tune - PITCH SHIFTER
    37. Vocal Reverb - PLATE
    38. Octave Down - PTICH SHIFTER
    39. BigMuffFuzz - GUITAR MULTI
    40. 12 String - PITCH SHIFTER
    41. Octave Echo - PITCH SHIFTER
    42. St.Flanger 1 - STEREO FLANGER
    43. St.Phaser 1 - STEREO PHASER
    44. DelayShift - PICH SHIFTER
    45. 1noteSusChrd - PITCH SHIFTER
    46. Panning Gate - GATE REVERB
    47. 5WayMultiTap - MULTI TAP DELAY
    48. Debussey - PITCH SHIFTER
    49. 1note Utopia - PITCH SHIFTER
    50. Sitar - VOCAL MULTI
    51. Rock 1 - GUITAR MULTI
    52. Rock 2 - GUITAR MULTI
    53. Rock 3 - GUITAR MULTI
    54. Rock 4 - GUITAR MULTI
    55. Rock 5 - GUITAR MULTI
    56. Tube Stack - GUITAR MULTI
    57. Tube Drive - GUITAR MULTI
    58. Tube Drive 2 - GUITAR MULTI
    59. Rhythm Drive - GUITAR MULTI
    60. Mid Drive - GUITAR MULTI
    61. Bright Drive - GUITAR MULTI
    62. Lead 1 - GUITAR MULTI
    63. Lead 2 - GUITAR MULTI
    64. Lead 3 - GUITAR MULTI
    65. Lead 4 - GUITAR MULTI
    66. Lead 5 - GUITAR MULTI
    67. Lead 6 - GUITAR MULTI
    68. Metal 1 - GUITAR MULTI
    69. Metal 2 - GUITAR MULTI
    70. Metal Lead - GUITAR MULTI
    71. Metal Flange - GUITAR MULTI
    72. West Coast - GUITAR MULTI
    73. 60's Sound - GUITAR MULTI
    74. Fuzz - GUITAR MULTI
    75. Fuzz Lead - GUITAR MULTI
    76. Clean - GUITAR MULTI
    77. Cutting 1 - GUITAR MULTI
    78. Cutting 2 - GUITAR MULTI
    79. Cutting 3 - GUITAR MULTI
    80. Arpeggio - VOCAL MULTI
    81. Line Sound - VOCAL MULTI
    82. Jazz - KEYBOARD MULTI 1
    83. Jazz Lead - GUITAR MULTI
    84. Edge Guitar - GUITAR MULTI
    85. U2 Guitar - GUITAR MULTI
    86. Police - GUITAR MULTI
    87. Deep Echo - GUITAR MULTI
    88. Overdub Echo - GUITAR MULTI
    89. Modulate - GUITAR MULTI
    90. Pitch Guitar - GUITAR MULTI
    91. Super Phase - KEYBOARD MULTI 2
    92. Step Phase - KEYBOARD MULTI 2
    93. Rhodes - RHODES
    94. Rotary Fast - ROTARY
    95. Rotary Drive - ROTARY
    96. 12StrngDtun - PITCH SHIFTER
    97. Elefant Guit - PITCH SHIFTER
    98. Diminish - PITCH SHIFTER
    99. BassBoom - GUITAR MULTI
    100.Guit Vocoder - VOCODER

    ----------------------------------
    1. Vintage Valve
    2. Classic Growl
    3. Fat Overdrive
    4. Harmonic Bass
    5. Blues Crunch
    6. Acoustic 360
    7. Tap Slap Pop
    8. 3 Band EQ
    9. Clean Pickin'
    10. Bass Boom
    11. Hard Drivin'
    12. Fart In A Can
    13. Bass Chorus
    14. Bass Phaser
    15. Bass Flanger
    16. Portaflex 15
    17. Half Step Down
     
  5. xcental34x

    xcental34x

    Feb 28, 2003
    Memphrica, TN
    Ok...now I know I have to get one of these.

    ~Patrick
     
  6. Finger Blister

    Finger Blister

    Jul 8, 2003
    If you buy one from E-Bay, make sure that
    you get the manual included.

    Bought mine for $75 off E-Bay w/manual and
    fresh battery.