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SVP-PRO, SVP-BSP, or SWR I.O.??

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by BigBohn, Oct 7, 2001.


  1. SVP-PRO preamp

    37 vote(s)
    61.7%
  2. SVP-BSP preamp

    9 vote(s)
    15.0%
  3. SWR Intersteller Overdrive preamp

    14 vote(s)
    23.3%
  1. BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    give your opinion if you like the SVP-PRO preamp, or the SVP-BSP or the SWR Intersteller Overdrive preamp more than another.
     
  2. Freakapotamus9

    Freakapotamus9

    Jun 20, 2001
    Nebraska
    i perfer the SWR, but i was very very impressed with the SVP-PRO. i just like the SWR sound more than the Ampeg. if i had the choice of all three, i would go with the I.O. ive never tried the BSP.
     
  3. CaracasBass

    CaracasBass

    Jun 16, 2001
    Madrid, Spain
    I would go with the BSP........ very flexible and great sound, It has separate XLR out for clean and overdrive channels, what else do you want???

    If you DON´T use overdrive or distortion don´t consider it, check out other preamps like SVT-PRO or Tube Woks Blue Tube
     
  4. I like my svp-bsp but I just use it for slight boost to get that greasy sound, I will drive it really hard into distortion with compression sometimes with scooped mids to get a really crushing sound when I slap or use heavy finger stye, good clean too. I wouldn't get rid of it ever.
     
  5. lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
    I say the SVP-Pro because it has a 5 tube preamp and its very no-nonsense. Just simple ampeg tone, no distortion. I think its better than the BSP for tone because the BSP has only one tube, but if you want more versatility, get the BSP. It has 2 channels and a great overdrive tone. Its up to you. I never use OD so I say the SVP-PRO.

    Im not familiar with the SWR preamp, but Ive heard good things. Its in the same league as the SVP-BSP but probably has a more hi-fi tone.
     
  6. LowRanger

    LowRanger

    Dec 24, 2000
    Gotta love the BSP for adding the right amount of grind. Never tried an IOD, but read too many reports about the sound "drifting" during a gig to want to push my luck.

    For my requirements, the Ampeg SVP-BSP has yet to disappoint.
     
  7. BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    aight, thanks guys
     
  8. jasonbraatz

    jasonbraatz

    Oct 18, 2000
    Oakland, CA
    SWR! i just got one, and even though it shipped with noisy powertubes, after i got that fixed (went out and bought ****ty groove tubes. they're all that's in town, i'll get some REALLY good ones later) i would have to say it's the best sounding amp i've ever played thru or heard.

    i don't use it for any distortion at all, and it has a ton of different clean tones inside it, along with varied levels of distortion.


    the learning curve is kinda steep though, it took me a couple days to figure out exactly how to work it.


    jason
     
  9. Tapp

    Tapp

    Aug 29, 2001
    USA, Mississippi
    Jason, what amp are you using with the ISO? I'm really considering this preamp myself and wish I had one I could rent or hear to see if it's for me. From your accounts, it sounds like I would like it. Some say it can do SVT and SWR clean.

    tapp
     
  10. jasonbraatz

    jasonbraatz

    Oct 18, 2000
    Oakland, CA
    i'm running it into a Carvin DCM1000, and they seem to match each other pretty well.


    i should be heading into the studio to lay some more tracks for my bands cd pretty soon, and i'll use the IOD. So hopefully i can render some of my tracks and put them up here so you can hear what it sounds like, cos i know you're not the only one wondering.


    jason
     
  11. ThunderStik

    ThunderStik Guest

    Jun 25, 2001
    Claremore OK.
    I say svp-pro. This pre really does kix max butt. If you do a search for svp-pro I did a review but this really hinges on what sound your goin for. If its a hi-fi sound then go with the IOD but for brute force rock and grind and bluesy tone the svp kix the iod's butt imo. Both are great pre's and thay both get sounds the other cant get so you should look at what type of music you are playing and want to play and the decision will be pretty easy. If you notice you have more votes for ampeg than you do for the iod :D
     
  12. lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
    If you want to make your SWR sound like an SVT, then why not just get an Ampeg preamp? This seems silly to me...
     
  13. Tapp

    Tapp

    Aug 29, 2001
    USA, Mississippi
    The point is: that you can have both SWR hifi clean and SVT grind in one box; this IMO would make a really versatile setup. Sometimes I wouldn't want the SVT grind; say when I'm playing my Pedulla fretless.

    tapp
     
  14. FalsehoodBass

    FalsehoodBass

    Jul 22, 2001
    Denver, CO
    first my vote, i have the SVP-Pro, i love it.. but it really doesn't matter.... its just a preference, i dont' think that there's really anything inherently bad about either...

    ok now my question.. both the IOD and BSP have blend controls in which you blend the overdriven and clean signals... why don't you just turn the drive knob up and down respectively.... you want more clean... don't blend in clean, just turn the drive knob down? i'm sure there's a reason for it, anyone care to enlighten me? thanks.
     
  15. BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    At first I was attracted to the SVP-PRO more than the other 2 because it had more tubes, but after all when I analyzed it, I would like a more clean, hi-fi sound, I suppose, sort of like Flea and the like, just for example. Isn't Flea a clean bass player, not Ampeg? correct me if im wrong.

    But now, I'm drifting towards the SWR IOD, because 1. The clean hi-fi sound I want it gives, 2. If i want distortion, which is VERY rarely, it'll give me good distortion 60s style, which is how bass distortion should be in any case, and 3. it looks tight with the chrome and the SWR name is great!!

    if anyone else agrees with me somewhat, please acknowledge this. sure sure, Ampegs got that classic sound, but I'm a modern player and I need a clean, semi-sterile sound that the SWR can give me. i play funk, slap, melodic stuff, and rock (heavy, industrial to light, classic rock). is the SWR IOD good for me, better than the SVP-PRO or SVP-BSP??? I've also thought that since I want a hi-fi clean tone, I wouldn't care too much for how many tubes I have, but rather the solid state. is that true?
     
  16. lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
    Yes, Flea uses a “hi-fi” amp (Gallien-Kreuger 2000RB to be exact) and yes, SWR will give you that sound. However, you should play some Ampeg amps and some SWR amps before you just spend your money. You have to play amps from each brand (with YOUR bass) and base your decision on that. I like Flea’s tone myself, but I still prefer Ampegs to any other amp, just because they sound the best to me.

    Also, your preamp doesn’t necessarily need OD built in. You can get a Big Muff or something like that and itll sound just as good, and you wont be limited to just OD preamps. You can look at clean ones too.

    Just make sure you try SWRs and Ampegs to really figure out which brand is the brand for you. You will regret it if you don’t.
     
  17. jasonbraatz

    jasonbraatz

    Oct 18, 2000
    Oakland, CA
    like i said - the IOD has the classic SWR sound plus tube plus overdrive. but it sounds like you figured that out.


    and there's a reason they invented the IOD in the first place - distortion pedals suck all the lowend out of your sound. this doesn't.



    jason
     
  18. jasonbraatz

    jasonbraatz

    Oct 18, 2000
    Oakland, CA
    like i said - the IOD has the classic SWR sound plus tube plus overdrive. but it sounds like you figured that out.


    and there's a reason they invented the IOD in the first place - distortion pedals suck all the lowend out of your sound. this doesn't.



    jason
     
  19. BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    what would be more clean and "hi-fi"? the SVP-BSP with 1 tube and solid state circuitry AND 2 channel, 1 being overdrive, OR the SWR IOD, with 3 tubes and solid state (I think) and 2 channels (if im correct). I've heard that the IOD tone is great when its great, but when its not hot enough or too hot, it loses its tone and goes on a nose-bleed dive to hell. the SVP-BSP, or SVP-PRO (which i think is too tubey for the hi-fi clean tone I want with my Megoliath), is more reliable in the lasting tone department, I believe. Can anyone back this up, or are my facts totally off?
     
  20. Hey...i'm looking for a pramp, and i'm in between these...i'm striving towards a warm tone...some drive would be great...does the SVP-PRO have Drive???:confused:

    For an idea of the tones i want to get, listen to "Tones of Home" (Blind Melon), Led Zeppelin II and "Given To fly" and "Blood" by Pearl Jam...:D