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Svt vr or svt7 pro?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by WCHIII, Dec 15, 2012.

  1. Help me decide please! I'm about to make
    a major amp purchase here. I've heard
    Nothing but praise about the SVT VR and it
    being the standard for all bass amps. The
    SVT7 pro however has me interested too with
    it being much more affordable. I'll run either
    Through an Ampeg 810 AV cabinet. We'll
    be doing both large inside and outside venues.
    Any thoughts or help you can give this
    confused novice bass player would be very
    much appreciated.
  2. Jim C

    Jim C Spector#496:More curves than Sophia + better sound Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2008
    I have an SVT-CL and think I will buy a 7-Pro for more power and less weight
    There is a huge thread that compares 7-pro to Streamliner with many VR references
    Search is the amp section; something like 40 pages
  3. RickenBoogie


    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    You are comparing a 300 watt all tube amp to a 1000 watt solidstate amp. Aside from them both being Ampeg's, there is very little else in common. I would suggest either reading info on these forums, or going out and playing some amps, before making such a big investment on something you need to learn so much more about. I mean this in a helpful way, as you clearly have a huge decision to make.
  4. jmattbassplaya

    jmattbassplaya Supporting Member

    Jan 13, 2008
    Tampa, FL.
    Physical traits aside, they actually are pretty close in regards to tone. If you want the Ampeg tube tone for cheap (without skimping quality) the 7Pro is a great choice.

    For the record, I've owned both.
  5. Kmonk


    Oct 18, 2012
    South Shore, Massachusetts
    Endorsing Artist: Fender, Spector, Ampeg, Curt Mangan Strings
    I would look for a used U.S. Made SVT 6 Pro. That way you get the tube preamp and tube driver but still get up to 1,100 watts from the solid state power amp. I use one for most of my gigs.
  6. bassguppy

    bassguppy Supporting Member

    It's hard to get anything more awesome than an SVT-VR. That said it is about 80lbs. I have an SVT-IIPRO and SVT-7PRO and 8/10 times the 7PRO makes the gig just because of the weight and it can seriously crank. That said...the tone of an all tube amp just makes you tingle all over. I'd get both but the 7PRO may be a better first choice.
  7. I've read and read on here just enough to
    confuse myself. I think the best thing I read
    was to go out and least play these to heads
    side by side. Trouble is, calling 3 guitar centers
    And most high end music stores within 3
    hours of me, no one has an svt vr in stock. It's
    an order only item.
  8. Tim1


    Sep 9, 2005
    New Zealand
    VR. Getting close to an all tube sound will never be enough if that is what you want. Save yourself some money in the long run and buy the real thing from the start.
  9. Jim C

    Jim C Spector#496:More curves than Sophia + better sound Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2008
    An SVT-CL is closest to a VR so a comparison with 7 Pro and CL would get you in the ball park
    For me the soundstage and touch sensitivity of an SVT is the best however I usually can not hear this subtlety in a band situation; best living room amp I've had
    I'm currently using the SVP-CL pre-amp + power amp although if I could steal a revision COO 7 Pro I would do so in a heartbeat
    Most of my gigs don't warrant the wear and tear as well as back breaking moving efforts
    of the King
  10. johnk_10

    johnk_10 vintage bass nut Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 16, 2008
    Thousand Oaks, CA
    John K Custom Basses
    I own both and although I absolutely love my VR, the 7Pro is what I use at most gigs.
  11. Why's that JohnK? Is it weight issue?
  12. johnk_10

    johnk_10 vintage bass nut Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 16, 2008
    Thousand Oaks, CA
    John K Custom Basses
    the 7pro is ALOT easier to schlep to gigs, i.e. more room in my car, but it's also capable of ALOT more volume if I need it.
  13. bassguppy

    bassguppy Supporting Member

    same here. Having the volume there if you need it is very comforting. I've been in bands (years ago) where previous rigs had trouble keeping up with a pair of loud guitars, keys, and drums. I would have no worries with a 7PRO thru an Ampeg 810.
  14. You mean there are situations when an svt vr
    may not be loud enough.
  15. johnk_10

    johnk_10 vintage bass nut Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 16, 2008
    Thousand Oaks, CA
    John K Custom Basses
    not often, but I've run into a few gigs where I needed more.
  16. Wow! We do some outside festivals and some big casinos
    and I've been lucky so far... Hoping the vr will be enough. If
    not, darn it, I'll have to get the pro7 later too. ;)
  17. JimmyM


    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    If it makes you feel better, I've never played a gig in 35 years where an SVT wasn't enough.
  18. Jim C

    Jim C Spector#496:More curves than Sophia + better sound Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2008
    I've haven't had a problem with an SVT w/ 2x15's or 8x10's
    It will drive a 1x15 for some gigs and a 2x12 for some larger club gigs
    300 watts isn't a lot if you want really clean high volume with smaller cabs
  19. SactoBass

    SactoBass There are some who call me.......Sactobass Supporting Member

    Jul 8, 2009
    Sacramento CA
    I agree. I have been playing bass for 40 years and have owned a plethora of amps, and the absolute best sounding amp I have ever owned in my life was a US-made SVT-VR. To my ears, the VR sounded waaaaaaay better than the SVT-CL that I used to own. The VR is an absolute tone machine. (IMO of course).

    The only reason I sold the SVTs was because they were getting a bit too heavy for my 56 year old body to schlep.

    I have never had the pleasure of playing through a 7Pro, so I have no info to offer on that. If other TB'ers say that the 7Pro sounds alot like the VR, then all I can say is "wow" the 7Pro must sound really really good!
  20. JOE EDO

    JOE EDO Supporting Member

    Aug 28, 2007
    Central New York
    I currently own: SVTVR, 1973 SVT, 7PRO.... The 73 gets first call to gigs, the VR gets the practice space (or a gig where the weather prevents me from taking the 73 out), the 7PRO gets the quick in/out gigs (church, quick showcases..etc.) As far as tone, each is similiar but like individuals each has a "special" quality when matched up with the approiate cabinet and bass. I play mostly classic rock/ blues and the 73 SVT is it with a Pbass and a 4x10 (actually 2 2x10's) or 8x10. However, for the more "modern" type gigs that call for a 5 string, the 7PRO just gets me where I want to be with a 2x10, 4x10, 8x10, or 1x15. I have a church gig Christmas eve and it's the 7PRO/2x10 cab/ Stingray 5. If weight is a concern, go with the 7PRO, you will be giving up a little (very little) in comparasion to the VR's tone. Remember too that you do have more headroom with the 7PRO and that may be a factor in your decision. IF you want tone for days and play a P or J bass, the VR is a natural. Keep in mind too that the 7Pro can do 8 and 4 ohm loads (cabinets), the VR does 4 or 2 ohm loads (cabinets.) Not sure if that plays into your decision, but it is something to think about. Hope this was helpful. Tone /volume is subjective, so read, listen, and play if you can. Remember too that some retailers have a generious return policy :) Take advantage of that if you can!