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SVT4-Pro vs. Mesa 400+

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by nickname, Dec 6, 2005.


  1. nickname

    nickname

    Jan 22, 2005
    Ok,

    So i understand the SVT4 is a kick ass powerful amp. I own one and its great. But I'e done a lot of research and even tried using the 400+.

    But heres the deal. Im running a Mesa/Boogie 1516b (15", 10", 2x6"). The cab is rated at 8 ohms split, or 4 ohms bridged. The cab is 400watts.

    I'm currently running the ampeg mono-bridged into the 4ohm conenction on the back. I get great loudness but I just can't seem to get a good tone.

    My question is basically.. do i downgrade to the 400+ and loose the wattage to acheive that incredible mesa sound, or keep the SVT4 and continue banging my head over it trying to get a tone I like. When I tried the Mesa 400+ the tone was incredible, and to be honest, i think it went LOUDER then the SVT4.

    I just need to know if i am crazy for thinking of leaving the SVT4 and going to the Mesa 400+
     
  2. I dont think you would be "downgrading" if you went from SVT4Pro to Mesa 400+

    Tube amps have a habit of sounding 3 or 4 times louder than an SS amp of the same wattage :)
     
  3. nickname

    nickname

    Jan 22, 2005
    now i just gotta figure out wether or not long and mcquade will let me use the money i've spent so far on the rental to put towards a mesa boogie 400+
     
  4. chris h

    chris h Guest

    Jun 16, 2002
    Oxford, England
    I use a mesa 400+ into a 1516be cab and love it. I find the tone just incredible, twinned with a graphite necked bass there is a really great mix of modern and old going on. Never tried that ampeg but you may get more volume by decreasing the input vol. and using more power amp vol. I found the mesa much louder this way - with the input on about 8 it bottomed out when slapping low D and D#. Now the input is on 5, I get more total volume, and have never had it past 3.5 so far. The sound is just beautifully detailed and complex.

    Good luck
    Chris
     
  5. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    +1
     
  6. Mesa-man here....
     
  7. chaosMK

    chaosMK

    May 26, 2005
    Albuquerque, NM
    Hi-fi into an old tube amp
    I used an SVT-4 for a few years. Use Mesa 400 (with KT-88's)now, never looked back. It isnt quite as bottomless power as the SVT, but probably equivalent in sonic output to a 1000 watt ss amp.
     
  8. BurningSkies

    BurningSkies CRAZY BALDHEAD

    Feb 20, 2005
    Seweracuse, NY
    In a fair fight, the Mesa has a longer reach, it can get to the SVT quicker, and those guns...they pack a powerful hook. Now on the other side of things, that SVT had a great lightning jab and knows how to protect the important parts...They've both had great fight training, and are in top shape for their weight class.

    I say the fight would go maybe 8 rounds, they'll both get bloody and bruised...and then the SVT will get disqualified for not being a 'real' SVT nor sounding quite like the old ones, and the 400+ will take the belt.



    ps. The 400+ is louder than you think.
     
  9. It is in no way a downgrade going to the 400+. At best it's an even trade. IMO, the Mesa is an SVT killer.
     
  10. e.maynard

    e.maynard

    Nov 11, 2004
    Afton, Virginia
    But what about that 1516 cab? It can be a tough one to get a focused tone out of. Lots of drivers. Lots of crossover points. If its on the floor (which it about would have to be due to the weight), and near a wall or worse yet a corner.......whew, comb filtering for days.

    But man it looks cool. One (or more) of each driver........Like a Whitman's Sampler chocolate box.

    http://www.bancroftcyberfair.com/foods/Images/holdingcandy.jpg
     
  11. kdogg

    kdogg

    Nov 13, 2005
    Ohio
    I own an SVT-4Pro, and I love it. It's a mack truck. The Mesa is like a sleek sports car, a blast to drive! What I'm saying is, apples and oranges. The two amps do what they do very well, IMHO they just don't do the same thing. I would be happy with either one, and I am! :bassist:
     
  12. Plain Old Me

    Plain Old Me

    Dec 14, 2004
    I think that the 400+ is a step above the 4-Pro, more equivilant to a SVT 2-Pro in the Ampeg line. I have played through a 4-Pro live, didn't like it. My 400+ has got more headroom, and sounds better. Although, when I tried the 4-Pro, it was through a crappy Ampeg 810 with no low end, and I use my Mesa with a Bergantino 610.
     
  13. chris h

    chris h Guest

    Jun 16, 2002
    Oxford, England
    [​IMG]

    Here is mine!
     
  14. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    Nice!!! :)
     
  15. chris h

    chris h Guest

    Jun 16, 2002
    Oxford, England
    Shame about the carpet
     
  16. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    Hey, leave the guy alone about his carpet! :spit: I think it's fine! ;)

    [Edit: Wait, you are giving yourself heck over the carpet! Ooops. Maybe that means I should look "inside myself", too... :meh:]

    Tom.

    P.S.
    I've caught heck for my basement carpet in several threads. :p
     
  17. chris h

    chris h Guest

    Jun 16, 2002
    Oxford, England
    Its MY carpet!
     
  18. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    Yeah, I missed that the first time, sorry. But still, it is better than this carpet!

    [​IMG]

    :p

    Tom.
     
  19. kdogg

    kdogg

    Nov 13, 2005
    Ohio
    I agree about the carpet! :eek: But that bass makes it all worth looking at! :bassist:
     
  20. chris h

    chris h Guest

    Jun 16, 2002
    Oxford, England
    Yes that is nasty carpet. The main disadvantage of mine however is that you can drop ANYTHING on it. a CD, a lead, spare valves, and it gets lost in the array of colour. I am convinved bad carpet = better fundimental tone however. In the lounge my rig loses some of the high end definition too.