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SWEDEN: what a wonderful country!

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by lneal, Sep 29, 2004.

  1. lneal


    Apr 12, 2002
    Lee County, Alabama
    My wife and I just got back from a 10 day vacation in Sweden and had a great time there. We were accompanied by her father, who is Swedish by birth and immigrated to the US in the late 60's, so we had a built in interpreter, although we found that most people there speak English fairly well. We spent 3 days in Stockholm, three more at some cottages on lake Siljan outside of Rattvik and 3 more at her uncle's place near Nykoping. The last day was spent getting back home. I also realized how dumb we Americans can be, but that's another show. We did so much and had so much fun.

  2. DigMe


    Aug 10, 2002
    Waco, TX
    That's not just americans. That goes for anyone travelling in an unfamiliar land.

    brad cook
  3. lneal


    Apr 12, 2002
    Lee County, Alabama
    I think you missed the point. I meant that some of the things we do here at home seem dumb after you go to another country. But I don't wanna go down that road, just wanted to say that we did something fun and enlightening, that's all.
  4. bluntman_bass


    Jul 13, 2004
    Wilcox, NE
    And what wonderful women! :D
  5. Marlat


    Sep 17, 2002
    London UK
    I thought he was talking about the busty blonde women! d'oh!
  6. lneal


    Apr 12, 2002
    Lee County, Alabama
    Yea, I was talking about the busty blonde women. :D Although I only checked out 1 or 2, after all I'm a happily married man :D

    Well, it is hard to hold it's socialist ideals against it when its such a beautiful place. Besides, I don't have to live there, and it isn't for me to decide what's best for them. I would love to visit again.
  7. Hey, cool to hear. I had a similar experience when I was 12. My grandfather came to the US from Sweden when he was 17 (by himself, with about 15 bucks in his pocket :eek: ). He took his family (my aunt & uncle, my mom & dad, and my brother and I) back to Sweden for 6 weeks to see from whence we all came. Even though I was 12, it was one of the most memorable things I've ever done. Something cool about seeing the house your grandpa was born in, hiking the trails he did when he was a boy (with him, even), etc.

    The people there were the nicest, most accomodating folks I've met since, and I've travelled quite a bit.
  8. i was in sweden last year, and i have to say it was one of the best holidays ive had, i was staying with my god parents who lived just outside stockholm, everywhere's so much cleaner and brighter than over here in the uk. i also caught a bit of the stockholm jazz festival to top things off.
    the people there are the bees knees, and one guy i didnt even know that well took me to see his massive music collection (filled his basement.) it was altogether lovely and i'll definately be going again, hopefully for longer.

  9. lneal


    Apr 12, 2002
    Lee County, Alabama
    Oh, one thing I forgot about that was interesting was that we went to the house where my father in law and his family spent a couple of years during WWII, and found it intact and with a nice couple living there who showed us around the place. My father in law mentioned that I'm a musician and it turns out that they are the parents of Jakob Hellman, a Swedish pop star, I think from the late 80's. I'd never heard of him, but his mom gave me a cd and it kinda reminds me of Elvis Costello. Pretty cool.
  10. when i went to europe there were many things that i appreciated how they did it over how it's done in different ways here in the states. at the same time, there were many things that i appreciated the way i have always experienced.

    i remember being disappointed by going to the UK because it was so much more similar to the US than, say, holland or france. i'd like to go back when i wasn't towards the end of the trip and at the end of my cash.

  11. bmc


    Nov 15, 2003
    mmm Swedish women....

    Every political system has its flaws, don't fool yourself.

    Sweden is great. Glad you had a great trip. Very friendly people. My first time there was many years ago. Went to the city hall while sight seeing and found three lovely topless lassies tanning on the front lawn. That kind of scenery is ok, warddrobe malfunction or not. :D
  12. Toasted


    May 26, 2003
    Leeds, UK
    I love Sweden, its a fantastic country. I spend a few days at least in Gothenburg every year. Which is ace :D!
  13. elros


    Apr 24, 2004
    Proprietor, Helland Musikk Teknologi
    Sweden Rocks.
    Hi Neighbour!
  14. bmc


    Nov 15, 2003

    Glad you posted Sweden as a vacation destination. It gets far too little mention, and is a very friendly place. I suspect you hit Gamlastan (sp) while in Stockholm?

    I used to be a Volvo nut at one point and travelling there to see all the models that were never sold in North America was a real treat.

    I am a very happliy married guy. But I have to say that I have travelled to a place where I saw so many truly beautiful women. Not sure if it was the hair, their eyes, their expressions, fashion. Can't pin it. Just really beautiful women.

    Glad you had a great trip. Lots to discover on this side of the pond.
  15. Oysterman


    Mar 30, 2000
    I'm sorry to say it Bruce, but your conception of Sweden as a *socialist* nation is, while perhaps not *completely* ass-backwards (from a historical perspective), uninformed and blindly romantic. We're no less capitalistic than your average western country - we have billion-dollar industries with private ownership (often foreign investors, as in Volvo/Ford, SAAB/GM), several formerly governmentally controlled companies are now privatized, and more are likely to become so in the near future. E.g. the telephone, mail service and electrical markets are privatized nowadays, which they weren't 15 years ago.

    We also have private schools and private health care clinics, again, just like any other western country. Blue-collar workers may have built this country after WWII, but the blue-collar jobs are successively vanishing abroad, to low-wage countries such as Estonia, Portugal or China. Just like in other western countries... this would not be very likely happen in a true *socialist* country, now would it?

    And, it is no secret (to Swedes) that the SAP in the eyes of many have "betrayed" their old ideals and moved more and more towards the right wing. This is not the place for such discussion, though.

    If you think our welfare system and high taxes are what makes a socialist government, then I'd like to hear your definition of the word. My guess that it'll differ from mine.
  16. Oysterman


    Mar 30, 2000
    The reason I quit hanging around here so much is that people tend to be overly sensitive about mostly everything. Indeed I have been no exception (especially in my periods of unemployment and depression), which is why I took a break from it all, and came back with "thicker skin". As far as I can see, this is no pissing match. I just want to give my input on something I read and think is misinformation. Is that so bad?

    Yes, Sweden is a great country, I think so too! I enjoy every minute of my life here, especially when I look to the billions of people who in our perspectives live miserable lives.

    Doesn't change the fact that we aren't socialist, though. ;)
  17. novel concept.

    i actually have travel goals to achieve in my life which include germany, austria, switzerland, spain, and more of france. i'm trying to figure out how to fit denmark and finnland, sweden, and norway into my plans. i think i will have to make two trips out of it, but germany is top on the list.

    as much as i'd like to see northern europe in the summer, i'd also like to go up for a winter, too. i'd also like to visit iceland. there too many cool places in the world. it makes me sad i can't experience more of them.

  18. MicceO


    Aug 12, 2004
    I've visited Sweden a couple times and I completely agree with everything positive said here about the country. Beautiful country, beautiful villages, beautiful ladies etc. Worth visiting!

    As for the "political" part of this discussion, socialist and social democracy are completely two different things to me. As far as I understand, the word socialist refers to a system where the means of production are owned by the state and where the prices are not determined at the market but are set by the state. Sweden does not meet neither of these criteria.

    But - go to Sweden, especially in the summertime, if possible, and to the north and you will experience something magic! :)

  19. The fact that the ladies go topless on the beach, right?

    :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
  20. MicceO


    Aug 12, 2004
    Yes, they do, but actually I was thinking something completely different: the midnight sun and the beautiful landscape. :)