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sweet foolish "cloning"

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by barroso, Apr 7, 2001.


  1. barroso

    barroso

    Aug 16, 2000
    Italia
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    here my next foolish idea. i want to build a bass the most possible similar to this magnificent beauty. i'll go with warmoth parts. the only modification i'd like to do is about the pickups. one jazz at the neck and a big humbucker, soapbar at the bridge with the j retro preamp.
    suggsetions about pickups configurations, woods, brands of pickups and preamp?
    thanks

    marco
     
  2. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    Great idea, Marco! Keep us up to date and let us know how it turns out. I might get the courage to build my own if yours turns out nice.:)

    I've always wanted a quilt top bass, so I would get their quilt top over swamp ash body(for light weight), maple neck with birdseye fingerboard, and since you are talking a Lakland 55-94 type pickup configuration, I would go with the Duncan Basslines MM bridge pickup and some sort of Basslines J neck pickup, with the J retro preamp it should be killer!

    Since I am going for the pretty top, I would be Jaco style and not put a pickguard on it, just have the control plate of the J retro.

    I've already got 2 good Jazzes(MIJ Geddy Lee and Pedulla Rapture J2 5) so I would love a high end looking Lakland or MM type bass at a Warmoth type price.
     
  3. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    You could definitly build a nice bass like that from warmoth.

    Hey embellisher, you could build a bass that you're describing for about a grand from warmoth. Here are 2 pics of my warmoth bass. It cost me total $900.

    <img src="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1174383&a=8647027&p=45907306">

    <img src="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1174383&a=8647027&p=45907310">
     
  4. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    Yeah, Nino, I saw your pix in that other thread.

    I like the concept of a Lakland, but I like the Jazz body more, and HEY! if I can cut the headstock to look like a Sadowsky, more's the better!

    I'm just not any good at painting or soldering, so this will be down the road a ways.

    I will probably get them to rout and finish the body for me, and then I can do a complete shielding before any electronics go into it.
     
  5. barroso

    barroso

    Aug 16, 2000
    Italia
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    dear embellisher, my idea is really near yours. try to mix the previous pic and the one i post now. i really like the sunburst finish of the sadowsky and the configuration of the second bass (btw it is a frudua, italian made by finest luthier galeazzo frudua). i prefer the look of the bass on the right with pickguards, but maybe you'll prefer the frudua on the left. for the headstock it could be nice, cool and quite strange for me a telecaster one, with five strings (at the moment i do not know if it's possible to have). the body shape is a jazz 5 string. at the moment i'm trying to choose the best pickups and preamp for my taste. i have a wonderful spector ns5cr with two emg killers soapbar pickups, so, just to have something different,i'd like to have another model and another brand. i'll take the advice about the basslines. mm at bridge and j at neck

    nino, as said, your warmoth kicks ass!
     
  6. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    Yeah, like the one on the left, but with the J retro installed, IE coverplate.

    That would be a sweet bass. Maybe I can buy it a piece at a time, spread out over 3 or 4 months.:)
     
  7. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    You can do the U-Retro, too (no coverplate).

    Sounds like a fun project.

    I just contacted a custom luthier and for the price of Warmoth parts and the HW and electronics I can get a custom 35" scale 5 (no, it's not DP ;).

    Have fun
     
  8. AssMan

    AssMan

    Dec 2, 2000
    Minnesota, USA
    Who is it then?
     
  9. AssMan

    AssMan

    Dec 2, 2000
    Minnesota, USA
  10. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    You mean Warmoth?;)

    They probably painted the pickups for the same reason they painted the back of the headstock ... because they wanted to. It wasn't Warmoth's idea, it was whoever built the bass. Nothing any more complicated than that.
     
  11. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    I'll tell you in a week or so. My point was, there are several options when it comes to getting a custom instrument together. I found this guy with a little research, you can, too.

    Nino used some Warmoth thrift shop and eBay parts, an excellent way to go IMO. To do what I was going to do with this tact was still going to be around $900...not that that's a bad thing.

    The resale value issue, between a Warmoth and a small unknown luthier instrument is probably the same. Then again 20 years ago I bought a bass from a small unknown luthier ... Mike Tobias.

    You spin the wheel, you take your chances;)
     
  12. AssMan

    AssMan

    Dec 2, 2000
    Minnesota, USA
    I know it's a warmoth. I agree that building a warmoth custom is a great way to go, especialy if use ebay and their thrift shop. Why are you on my case? Did you build it or something?
     
  13. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    If you mean me...sorry, AssMan. You called it a funny looking Lakland. Also, you did say you wondered why they painted the pickups, if I knew it was simply a rhetorical question...

    No, I didn't build it.


    Didn't realize that was getting on your case.

    Pardon me.
     
  14. AssMan

    AssMan

    Dec 2, 2000
    Minnesota, USA
    I was being sarcastic about the lakland thing. On the "on my case thing", I checked my e-mail and the first 2 threads I looked at both had you on them saying something that seemed like mild flameing, but I guess it really wasn't. I apologize for the confusion, and mean no disrespect.
     
  15. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    And I seriously meant that if you thought I was getting on your case, I'm sorry. I wasn't.

    I didn't know you were being sarcastic, someone who didn't know what it (the bass) was would probably have posted just like you did, with no hint that you weren't serious.

    You might remember I responded to your Kingston 5 post and other than saying I think it's a great bass was just asking why you'd want to change electronics in it...what "didn't" it do that you wanted it to. That question is rarely asked and I know lots of people who ask themselves after they've spent the money:D

    I thought that was a question...no more, no less.

    Thanks for clearing things up. I don't mind a heated discussion (this wasn't;)) but flaming isn't one of my hobbies.

    Thanks, A, and take care.
    Brad
     
  16. AssMan

    AssMan

    Dec 2, 2000
    Minnesota, USA
    No problem. I'd replace the kingstons electronics because I just like the active pre-amp sound, and it's nice to be able to tweak or change your tone on the fly. More knobs are always fun too.
     
  17. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings