switch 4x10 for 2x12 ??

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by emielow, Apr 20, 2005.

  1. emielow


    Jan 18, 2004
    i'm thinking about switching my 4x10 hartke xl cab, for a 2x12 cab from Nemesis.

    Power 320 Watts RMS @4Ω
    Tweeter T2004
    Speakers 2-ES 1260
    Crossover 3Khz @12 db
    Power Handling 350W RMS
    Frequency Response 48Hz - 18Khz ±2dB
    Sensitivity 102dB SPL@1W1M
    Impedance 4Ω
    Dimensions 24.75"w x 24.75"h x 16.25"d
    Weight 58 LBS

    the hartke 4x10xl has 400 watt at 8 ohms.. and this one 320 at 4 ohms, my top has 350 watt at 4 ohms. hartke 3500.

    can you use the top better this way? (the ohm/watt story?)and what would it sound like? i like my 4x10 sound, but it's heavy and large..

    and is nemesis a good brand?
  2. buffordbass


    Nov 11, 2004
    Endorsing Artist: Genz Benz Amps, Lakland Basses
    Nemesis is made by the good folks at Eden. It is a much superior cab to your Hartke 410 in terms of tone & will match up to your head better, you will get the full 350 watts where as with the 410 you could only get about 280. The 12's will also give you a more mellow sound than the 10's, bigger speaker surface area, etc... but still more responsive than a 15" which has a tendency to get muddy. Unless you play a lot of slap or pop you should be very happy. If slap is your thing, you'll have to tweek your eq up a bit.
    Good luck!!
  3. emielow


    Jan 18, 2004
    so Nemesis cab is better cab than a Hartke? en indeed, i like slapping. is this cab right for gigs also?
  4. jokerjkny


    Jan 19, 2002
    NY / NJ / PA
    the nemesis boxes are waaaaaaaay better IMHO than the Craptke's.

    but i'd go with their 4x10 combo, only cause 12" speakers have never really satisfied my jones for that punch and slam.
  5. 4Mal

    4Mal Supporting Member

    Jun 2, 2002
    Columbia River Gorge
    The Nemesis has a huge low end. It can get boomy quick. Your 3500 has a nice flexible EQ so controlling that should be a snap.

    In general I'd say a 3500 driving that cab could be a pretty decent rig. I liked my 3500 a lot. They are a little fragile* so mine spent it's life in a rack and I had no issues. I would probably still have that head but I was looking for more like 350 at 8 ohm so I could pair it with my MM 2x12.

    * The fragility comes from having all those plastic sliders exposed to 'real life' and a pretty light weight chassis. Give that puppy a little protection by 1. racking it and devising a little extra stiffening and support in the rear. This is not an amp that you want to throw into a milk crate and then into a truck at the end of the night.
  6. emielow


    Jan 18, 2004
    yeah mine 3500 is also in a rack, but which cab is better? the hartke 4x10 XL ? or a nemesis eden cab

    this is the good picture of the nemesis 2x12 cab with horn:


    or should i just keep my hartke?
  7. konfishily


    Jan 24, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY
    Yeah the 12 inch speakers will give you the low end you want, with the punch of the 10's. And its also a question of Hartke vs Eden. Hartke is just not up to par in the tone/construction/materials.