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Switched from a Hartke 3500 to Power/Pre setup and now I'm confused

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by zhaddock, Oct 9, 2010.


  1. Oct 9, 2010 #1
    zhaddock

    zhaddock

    Dec 31, 2008
    Kasnas City
    I was running a Hartke 3500 through a 4 ohm 215 cab that I had rewired to 16 ohms since the hartke is an 8 ohm amp. I found a RBI for a steal so decided to switch to a crown xls drivecore 1000. I also rewired the cab back to 4 ohms. Here's what I dont understand. The Hartke was running 350watts @8 ohms through a 16ohm cab and that setup sounded much much louder than then crown running 1100 watts bridged mono @ 4 ohms. ***??? The numbers dont make sense to me. I could never take the Hartke past 7 without feeling like the walls were going to come down. I can max out the RBI and the crown and it just seems loud. What say the experts?
     
  5. Oct 9, 2010 #2
    BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Inactive

    Aug 25, 2007
    Scarborough Ontario Canada
    You are comparing gain structure here more than absolute power. The Crowns output level is entirely dependent on how much voltage the RBI can put into its inputs. IIRC the Crown amps need a fair bit of voltage to go to full output. Also make sure you have wired the drivers properly. If one is wired with reverse polarity, your output will be markedly compromised.
     
  10. Oct 9, 2010 #3
    spz8

    spz8

    Jan 19, 2009
    Glen Cove, NY
    As per Hartke's user manual for the 3500...

    3500 @ 4 ohms = 350 W
    3500 @ 8 ohms = 240 W
    3500 @ 16 ohms = 145 W

    Not sure why you'd want to run a 16 ohm cab.
     
  14. Oct 9, 2010 #4
    Gav4003

    Gav4003

    Jul 22, 2010
    Bridgend U.K.
    Endorsing Artist: Dovetail strings
    The hartke head does put out incredible volume for the watts, I use one over plenty of other heads I've tried out because of the amount of volume it gives on a low setting, incredible heads and ultra reliable.
     
  18. Oct 9, 2010 #5
    craig.p

    craig.p

    Sep 28, 2008
    New Hampshire
    I agree with Paul. Chances are the RBI isn't putting out enough voltage to drive the Crown to its full output. I think the XLS series needs at least 1.25 volts at the inputs to drive the outputs fully.

    You might be able to squeak a little more out of the RBI by turning up the DRIVE control a bit. Also make sure you haven't enabled the -20dB output pad.
     
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