SWR Goliath Jr. vs. Goliath Jr. II/III

Different speakers have been used in each model change
of the juniors. The first models have two rear bass ports.
The newer jr's have front ports. By now, many of the older
boxes are starting to shake apart. When SWR was in the
LA area, I walked my early version into SWR. They used
liquid nails and "stuff", to make the box more solid. Then
they tuned the rear ports. This made a huge difference.

 

Although I can't give you technical info like B String I can say I've owned and used several versions of the Goliath cabs.

I too had a few of the original cabinets...a 4x10, and a 4x8. I ended up selling them because even though they sounded great, they really didn't hold up to the kind of club work I was doing...throwing stuff in vans, lots of club and road dates, etc.

As such, I moved on to other brands for a few years including a good stint with the Eden stuff. A buddy of mine owns a nice music store and started getting the new Goliath III series in. I was sold. I own a Goliath III Jr. 2x10 which I use for all my upright jazz gigs. I also own a GIII 4x10 which is my main rock/blues/funk cab with electric bass. Stack 'em together and look out! Only problem with this configuration is the 2x10 is not as deep as the 4x10 and the corners don't lock up right. What a drag. I went out and bought a cheap, black rubber car floor mat that fits perfectly between the two cabs and stacks them up right.

I've had them both for about three or four years now and love them very much. Yes, there are better cabs out there, but for the price, these seem to hold up great and always sound consistently tight from gig to gig.

 

a bit more info.....

the original Goliath and goliath Jr were made by eden. the back of any of those cabs will say made for SWR by Eden on the back panel. they usededen speakers and fostex horns

the goliath 2 and goliath jr 2 were made by swr with PAS speakers and foster horns but are essentially identical to the original cabs. Eden's 410T cab (not XLT) is almost identical to the goliath 1 and 2, but uses edn drivers and an eden horn. The eden 210T cabs are different than the goliath jr as they use front ports.

the swr goliath 3 and goliath jr 3 are different designs with front vents and lighter PAS speakers. They also accept higher wattages than the 1 and 2 series. However, i don't like 'em as much as the older models.

 

Use an ohm meter.

 

I thought that alot of the early SWR's used BagEnd Speakers. Yes??

 

Does anyone know if all of the original Goliath Junior cabinets (by Eden)were all 4 ohm or was there a 4 and 8 ohm option as there is with the Goliath III?

 

I had 4, one by Eden and it sounded like it, one transitional one and two 2s. They were all 4 ohms and I used them with two sm-400s as they got 220 watts a side at 4 ohms a side. I think the rear porting hurt them when playing outside or on a big stage. When there was a wall they were great at least to the band. Stacking them on their sides is a huge improvement even using one. They project and the bass is tighter. I had a three and it sounded better cranked. The IIs and I, had a sweeter tone with the sweetest being the eden. I am not an eden fan however. It just had sweeter uppermids and highs. Enjoy.

 

The product number will tell you the impedance.

4410700400 4 ohms
4410700800 8 ohms

 

Thanks for the info. That will be very helpful.

 

How would the
Trace Elliot GP7 SM 150 head run with the Golliath Jr. II cab (250w @ 4 ohms)?