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swr horn hisses....

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Aenema, Nov 18, 2001.


  1. Aenema

    Aenema

    Apr 18, 2001
    Michigan
    i have a goliath III cab. the horn hisses and its very annoying. is there anyway to get rid of this without having to turn the horn all the way down? seems like it didnt do this before with my jazz bass which had passive pick ups. just got a cirrus with active pick ups. what would cause this? is this normal?
     
  2. leper

    leper

    Jun 21, 2001
    well since the only thing that changed is the bass id say youre pretty much guaranteed that its the bass hissin, not the amp. take it to the shop?
     
  3. BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    aye, thats what I always thought. oh why did you get the Goliath??? You should of gotten the Eden D-410XLT which is just like 90 bucks more and has very low hiss, which you can't hear unless you put your ear to the horn, and the lows are more full than that of the Goliath. oye vay, i feel sorry for you.
     
  4. captainpabst

    captainpabst

    Mar 18, 2001
    Tennessee
    it's most likely the active electronics in the bass.
     


  5. Now lets not get started on this one! :D
     
  6. captainpabst

    captainpabst

    Mar 18, 2001
    Tennessee
    the swr is as good as the eden - it's all personal preference. hey aenema, could you take your amp to the store and play a couple other basses like yours thru it to compare? maybe you could return your ax or swap it out if it is the problem...
     
  7. Ty McNeely

    Ty McNeely

    Mar 27, 2000
    TX

    Exactly....it's not real cool to say "why didn't you get this, it's better". If they would've thought it was better, they would've gotten that!;)
     
  8. Mike

    Mike

    Sep 7, 2000
    Cali
    I had a Goliath cabinet a few years back and it hissed all over the place until I bought a DBX noise gate. No hiss. No more.
     
  9. jasonbraatz

    jasonbraatz

    Oct 18, 2000
    Oakland, CA
    the swr horn is very powerful, and very loud. so any hiss your bass or rig makes will be amplified. a speaker cab is incapable of making noise by itself. unplug your bass and see if the hiss goes away. if not it could be your amp. is your gain up really high or your treble knob?


    and i've played almost every eden cab they make...and i wouldn't take a single one over my swr cabs.


    but that's just MY OPINION!!! :p



    jason
     
  10. hmmm, I've never heard of HINT of hiss from my Cirrus, so I'd be surprised if that was it.
     
  11. PollyBass

    PollyBass ******

    Jun 25, 2001
    Shreveport, LA
    Well i dont know about YOU guys with all your edan this and SWR that. my peavey hisses like it was a snake in its prevouis life. but thats just the horn.
     
  12. Aenema

    Aenema

    Apr 18, 2001
    Michigan
    its not really a problem its jusy annoying. ill get use to it i suppose. ive played eden and it sounded very fat. the reason i picked up swr is because it was on sale pretty cheap. only thing i dont like about it is with fingerstyle the highs are brittle. but the slap tone is out of this world! :D down the road im gonna sell it and check out eden or boogie.
     
  13. First of all, I would like to say "boo" to Bigbohn for the childish remark. Very poor form. If SWR's are so crappy, why do so many guys use them? Are all SWR endorsers tone deaf idiots? I'm not trying to say that SWR is the be all end all of bass amps, for everybody. I happen to like Eden stuff quite a lot as well as lot of other stuff. Anyhow, I digress.

    The cab is not the source of the hiss. Hiss comes from noisy electronics (amp or bass or signal cable). The horn just makes the existing noise audible. If you're using excessive top end the hiss will be more audible. Active electronics have a higher potential for hissing than passive electronics do, especially when the batteries are a bit low. I own a goliath and it doesn't hiss any more than any other cabinet I've used with my amp. In short, that cabinet is not the problem.
     
  14. Aenema

    Aenema

    Apr 18, 2001
    Michigan
    eden seems to color basses more than any amp. cept ampeg maybe... but think bout it. you can take any bass and it will sound fat on eden. swr i think lets you hear the natural tone of your bass. i always got the chest thump factor goin so i guess eden must have earth quake style rumble since the lows are better.
     
  15. The funny thing here is that both SWR and Eden use EXACTLY the same Foster/Fostex compression driver :)
     
  16. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    Okay, dumb question(s) time...

    Where are the tone and voicing controls set on your amp? How about on the bass?

    Does it only hiss when you plug in the Cirrus? Where are you plugging the Cirrus in, the same input as the passive Jazz?

    Set everything flat, on the amp and the bass.

    Got hiss?
     
  17. PJR

    PJR

    Jun 20, 2001
    N.E. PA
    >>>>"The funny thing here is that both SWR and Eden use EXACTLY the same Foster/Fostex compression driver"<<<<

    ....actually they aren't the same drivers !!!

    I have both an Eden (2-12xlt) and SWR (Goliath sr.) ......and through my curiosity pulled out boths horns to see if there was any other difference besides the Eden being Gold....and the SWR being silver.

    ...well.....the drivers are completely different....
    SWR's has a noticably larger magnet assembly....and the diaphrams are very different.
    ......and definately not interchangable.

    The SWR horn is just slightly larger than the Eden also.
    They ARE different !!!

    Just thought you should know...

    PJR
     
  18. Aenema

    Aenema

    Apr 18, 2001
    Michigan
    if i turn the horn all the way down theres no hiss. if i turn the treble down on my bass theres still a hiss. i plug it into the active input. just want a simple answer to a simple question and i get people tellin me to get eden bla bla bla.
     
  19. An EQ cut at 2kHz will help.
     
  20. FalsehoodBass

    FalsehoodBass

    Jul 22, 2001
    Denver, CO
    yea... what donne said... just turn down your treble knob... on your amp... if it doesn't go away... then there's a signal problem.. bass or amp need to get checked on..