Here's the scoop. I bought the Redhead new in 99. I blew the speakers when I joined a louder band. I replaced them with the factory PAS speakers. I bought Big Ben off of Ebay in 2003. After the second rehearsal, it blew! I replaced it with the factory Bag End speaker. Big Ben is definitely older, can't tell you the year, but it shows some wear. The Redhead is in good condition. The selling price is $900. Due to the weight and size, I'd rather not UPS them. I'll gladly drive 3-4 hours to deliver. So Detroit, Cleveland, Cinci, Chicago, or let me know where. I have a vacation coming up, and nothing planned yet.