Hey all, I posted a question in the DB side asking about the Rabbath or Vance method for fretless, but so far it doesn't look so good. I just got an unlined fretless, and have also ordered another unlined neck to replace my lined one. When I played the lined one, I really used my eyes a lot more than I should have, and then I would use my ears to tell if I should move from there or not. With the unlined I have to use my ears a lot more, which I like. I read an interview with Esperanza Spalding and she was very influenced with the Rabbath method of teaching which seemed to put more emphasis on muscle memory rather than just placing fingers and using your ear to gauge your placement. I really think that this a systematic approach would help improve my muscle memory and make my intonation more accurate. I'm just wondering if there are any such systematic methods for fretless? FWIW, I do own Steve Bailey's fretless book and Chris Kringel's Hal Leonard's fretless book. Or has any fretless BG player had any luck working through Rabbath, Vance, or Simandl, or any other DB methods by themselves (without teachers)? Thanks, Matt EDIT TO ADD: I have gotten some great exercises from other members, such as FretlessMainly. But I'm still curious about a systematic approach to the entire fingerboard. I do use a 1-2-4 method below the 4th position (7th fret, or B on the E string).