The other day I was trying out a bass and this dude started chatting with me, I am always interested how bassists doing stuff an all but when the bloke started telling me about "3rd fret on this string and the 9th fret on that string then move to the 17th fret while" at that moment I switched off! I asked "so what's that note?" he said "it's the 8th fret of this string" pointing to the F on the A string. I'm no snob but I do not consider ppl like that musicians and have absolutely nothing to talk about despite the apparent enthusiasm. I said "it might pay to learn the notes one day ey! " Also discovered so called "tutorials" that teach whole tunes talking "this fret on this string" frankly I can't watch those. These wanna be bass players might learn to play a song but never learn music. I have zero time for them and even less respect for anyone teaching that way.