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Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by barroso, Oct 15, 2001.

  1. barroso


    Aug 16, 2000
  2. SRSiegel

    SRSiegel Guest

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ann Arbor, Michigan
    yeah that does look cool. i normally hate the J bass design, but the carbon (i think) looks cool. i bet it has a tight sound too. Id be interested out of curiosity to know more about how they build these things. I do not however find their other models attractive. you can see them elsewhere at that site. a littel too wierd for me. did i just say that?!??!
  3. Yvon

    Yvon Supporting Member

    Nov 2, 2000
    Montreal, Canada
    I would like to try one for sure.

    it's probably well over 2000$
  4. Bass Guitar

    Bass Guitar Supporting Member

    Aug 13, 2001
    It looks great though - I like how they made the whole thing look like it's one piece.
  5. Bob Clayton

    Bob Clayton Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Aug 14, 2001
    Deptford, NJ
  6. uh isn't the whole idea behind that is that it is all one piece? i could be wrong but i'm pretty sure that's what monocoque means
  7. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    "Monocoque" means the skin takes all the stresses, at least in aviation....which is the only other context where I've seen it used.

    Maybe Heiko at Basslabs will drop in here and tell us where they are about getting the price down a little in the US with a distributor. He posted in a thread I started months ago on Basslabs. They had their first NAMM exposure at the last show, in the SWR booth.

    Except for that banana yellow thing with the upper horn attaching to the headstock, I think they look cool.
  8. monocoque can also apply to the car world in which the chassis of a car, the outside panels, and suspension are all one piece.
  9. malthumb


    Mar 25, 2001
    The Motor City
    Spot on, mate. ('cept for that suspension part.) I'm in automotive product planning. Now it's refered to as unibody.

    Trust me, you wouldn't want your suspension and chassis as one piece. Shake your fillings out.

    Monocoque means made from one piece.


  10. sorry about that. i'm not in the car business but i used to be a car nut so that kinda qualifies me to chime in on this discussion.
  11. Heiko

    Heiko BassLab

    Apr 24, 2001
    Kassel, Germany
    Hi, everybody!

    (Hi, Rickbass!)

    This is Heiko from BassLab. Just a short note:
    All of our instruments are made of one piece! Just a skin of 3-4mm. It´s a composite mixture, that contains carbon, but it´s absolutely not pure carbon as used by other manufacturers. We wanted another sound...... and take the best from both worlds!
    I don´t want to explain here, how we make them, but it´s a chemical process, that is much more complicated than working with wood. That´s one of the reaons, why we are not able to compete with Yamaha, etc., but when it comes to sound........
    I know that not everybody likes the design of our models. It´s like "love it or hate it"! (
    BTW: Most of the design came from acoustic or ergonomic reasons. The L-bow has a lowered resonance frequency and out of that, a huge low end.)
    We had a lot of requests for "Non-design"-instruments and that´s why we decided to offer our technology (or sound) for "old-fashioned" players. (Sorry, don´t want to offend someone!)

    Pricing of the Soul-Bass in the U.S. must be around 2.200$.
    It´s available as 4- and 5-string and has the new BassXX electronics with parametric mids and a battery control LED. Our new distributor is J.I.-Concepts in L.A.. Jacques Isler can be reached via mail:
    He actually has three basses, but he will get much more within the next two months. He thinks, that from the mid of november, the first instruments will be available in several shops.

    There are several different models of the Soul - the lightest verison is around 2.3kg and has a very acoustic sound due to the thin top. Others models might be a bit heavier.

    Thanks for your time!


  12. barroso


    Aug 16, 2000
    heiko, i'm not sure to have really understood the situation. do you mean that the soul bass is made only by a 2-3mm shell, this means that inside the bass is empty? i'm an industrial designer other than a bass player and this is quite stunning! it's the same for the neck? there is no wood inside?
    thanks and hope to try one of these one day!
  13. Heiko

    Heiko BassLab

    Apr 24, 2001
    Kassel, Germany
    Yep! It´s completely hollow, even the neck, just an outer skin of 3-4mm´s
    There is no wood inside or outside the instrument (O.k., o.k., we sometimes use wooden PU-sockets!).

    You can read a few things about the concept on our website. If there are still any questions, just contact me or discuss it here.....

    Best regards,

  14. Suburban


    Jan 15, 2001
    lower mid Sweden
    Barroso, you are too conservative;)
    You ought to try the STD. That is really something worthwile! As opposite to F.....s, for example, and clones as the Soul, the STD presents an attempt for ergonomics (and now Heiko will flog me for "attempt" :D ). It almost became a part of me. Great instruments for making real music.
  15. Heiko

    Heiko BassLab

    Apr 24, 2001
    Kassel, Germany
    Hi, Suburban!

    Not shure, if flogging would be sufficient!!! ;>)

    The problem is, that you can´t go too far with ergonomics. Every Body is different and there is nothing, that would fit for all.
    When I need to make a custom bass, I need to know the hand size, arm length, etc.., but you can´t do this with the series instruments.

    I once made a bass for Frank Itt (he is very popular in germany and one of the few german players, that is also very well known in the rest of the world, Jennifer Rush, Jule Neigel Band, Terence Trent D´Arby, Pili Pili and lots of studio jobs).
    He is very robust and I "forgot" to change the shape on the back of the instrument. He loves his bass, but I always need to think of the "ergonomical problem".......

    The attached picture is a sideview of the STD-VI. You can see the rounded shape of the back (this one is extreme.). It makes the bass stay where he should be, while you dance and not vice versa!
    It´s just a small ad and it´s not erverybodies taste

  16. Hey Heiko, Im a big fan of BassLab basses. There the coolest looking. I love your idea for the doubleneck!!! How much is it??? Also where could I get one because I live in Massachusetts.
  17. air_leech


    Sep 1, 2000

    not sure but maybe you mean monocote'? the shrink wraping coating used on RC planes?