not on my watch. anything that even smells of that kind of divisive, overly confrontational style of posting or topics is going to result in swift action by me, jazzbo or gard. i've had it with this bullsh!t line in the sand confrontational crap, and i think it's safe to say that jb and gard have too. that's not what this forum's for - if it can't be discussed with mutual respect, then it can't be disccused here - try usenet. hopefully a few days in the penalty box will be sufficient for the most pernicious repeat offender of recent weeks.