Hey Guys, So I have been listening to a lot of Acid lately, mostly Luke Vibert's Lovers and Moog Acid. What do you guys use to get that TB 303 sound? I have been using Woolly Mammoth>Swept MS-20 Filter>Bass Balls. I really wish I could use cv to sweep my Bass Balls that would be so sick. It would add a lot more depth to the filtering sound. Does any one know if there is a mod to add an expression sweep to a Bass Balls? Anyway how do you get your TB 303 acid sounds? Does anyone actually have and use a real TB 303? If so how does it work in a live setting for you?
Probably not much help since I'm guessing you already read this, but I know John Davis said he uses the CoPilot Orbit for his 303 sounds.
I've used a real 303 and a couple of clones. The key with those is that the pattern is playing automatically, and at least one of your hands is free to quickly/articulately twist different parameters. With bass guitar through pedals of course, most of your attention and dexterity is focused on playing the patterns, leaving only a foot (slow, clumsy) to tweak typically just one parameter with an expression pedal.
I don't use the synth sounds in mine, but there's a 'mono synth' in the Zoom B9.1ut that is apparently based upon the stereotypical moog sound, and the expression pedal can control 2 parameters at once. A lot of money for experimenting I know, but might be worth a look anyway.
the 303 is a tough thing to emulate... the glide and accent feature on the original contribute a lot to it's signature sound, and it also has an 18db/oct filter instead of a more common 12 or 24db/oct slope... i used to get 303 esque sounds with the bass balls as well, that kinda has a similar vibe somehow, interms of the vowel-y filter sound... the orbit can get an oscillator sound that reminds me of the 303 with high resonance and fast attack on the envelope. john
I don't mean to sound argumentative, but how could you honestly expect to achieve a close approximation of the TB-303 using a bass guitar and pedals? The charm of the 303 is as others have pointed out its crude simple arcitechture, and its Accent/Slide configuration in its internal step sequencer. Other defining factors are of course the 18db filter, and the interaction of the filter/envelope when tweaking. Trying to program a specific bassline with the internal sequencer can be like pulling teeth, but it excells at providing much joy with happy accidents, and unintended sequences. I've not yet heard a faithful recreation of the TB-303 in hardware. Recent software by the likes of the D16 group are getting closer. But it still couldn't provide a live bass player the specific/authentic sound of the 303, and no combination of pedals will ever get close. I'd recommend finding a new sound instead
Yeah, I'm always shooting for ballpark sounds like rather than spot on. The fuzz>filter>bass balls combo I use does get the "acid sound" that I would compare to TB-303. It just gives that feeling, I don't think anyone would really think it was a TB-303 it just kind of sounds like it or evokes that classic acid feel. That is what I am after.
hey.. can you give an example of the sound per se. youtube or whatever. I was playing w. my FM4 last night and getting some really acidy sounds.
There is literally hundreds of examples you can find on the internet.... Here is just the first one I clicked on.