TB 303 sounds, how do you get them?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by rnilson, Jul 28, 2009.

  1. rnilson

    rnilson

    Mar 8, 2008
    Kansas City, MO
    Hey Guys,
    So I have been listening to a lot of Acid lately, mostly Luke Vibert's Lovers and Moog Acid. What do you guys use to get that TB 303 sound? I have been using Woolly Mammoth>Swept MS-20 Filter>Bass Balls. I really wish I could use cv to sweep my Bass Balls that would be so sick. It would add a lot more depth to the filtering sound. Does any one know if there is a mod to add an expression sweep to a Bass Balls?

    Anyway how do you get your TB 303 acid sounds? Does anyone actually have and use a real TB 303? If so how does it work in a live setting for you?
     
  2. Jared Lash

    Jared Lash Born under punches

    Aug 21, 2006
    Denver, CO
    Probably not much help since I'm guessing you already read this, but I know John Davis said he uses the CoPilot Orbit for his 303 sounds.
     
  3. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    I've used a real 303 and a couple of clones. The key with those is that the pattern is playing automatically, and at least one of your hands is free to quickly/articulately twist different parameters. With bass guitar through pedals of course, most of your attention and dexterity is focused on playing the patterns, leaving only a foot (slow, clumsy) to tweak typically just one parameter with an expression pedal.
     
  4. rnilson

    rnilson

    Mar 8, 2008
    Kansas City, MO
    Yeah, Damn bass guitar occupying both hands is always interfering my my pedal twiddeling...:mad: :bag:
     
  5. ga_edwards

    ga_edwards

    Sep 8, 2000
    UK, Essex
    I don't use the synth sounds in mine, but there's a 'mono synth' in the Zoom B9.1ut that is apparently based upon the stereotypical moog sound, and the expression pedal can control 2 parameters at once. A lot of money for experimenting I know, but might be worth a look anyway.
     
  6. JohnDavisNYC

    JohnDavisNYC

    Jan 11, 2008
    Brooklyn, NY
    Endorsing Artist: Aguilar, D'Addario
    the 303 is a tough thing to emulate... the glide and accent feature on the original contribute a lot to it's signature sound, and it also has an 18db/oct filter instead of a more common 12 or 24db/oct slope...

    i used to get 303 esque sounds with the bass balls as well, that kinda has a similar vibe somehow, interms of the vowel-y filter sound... the orbit can get an oscillator sound that reminds me of the 303 with high resonance and fast attack on the envelope.

    john
     
  7. HogieWan

    HogieWan

    Feb 4, 2008
    Lafayette, LA
    with a TB 303
     
  8. Wud

    Wud

    Apr 11, 2009
    I don't mean to sound argumentative, but how could you honestly expect to achieve a close approximation of the TB-303 using a bass guitar and pedals?
    The charm of the 303 is as others have pointed out its crude simple arcitechture, and its Accent/Slide configuration in its internal step sequencer.
    Other defining factors are of course the 18db filter, and the interaction of the filter/envelope when tweaking.
    Trying to program a specific bassline with the internal sequencer can be like pulling teeth, but it excells at providing much joy with happy accidents, and unintended sequences.
    I've not yet heard a faithful recreation of the TB-303 in hardware.
    Recent software by the likes of the D16 group are getting closer.

    But it still couldn't provide a live bass player the specific/authentic sound of the 303, and no combination of pedals will ever get close.
    I'd recommend finding a new sound instead
     
  9. I cast my vote towards this post for "most helpful post on Talkbass" award.

    :eyebrow:
     
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  10. rnilson

    rnilson

    Mar 8, 2008
    Kansas City, MO
    Yeah, I'm always shooting for ballpark sounds like rather than spot on. The fuzz>filter>bass balls combo I use does get the "acid sound" that I would compare to TB-303. It just gives that feeling, I don't think anyone would really think it was a TB-303 it just kind of sounds like it or evokes that classic acid feel. That is what I am after.
     
  11. hey.. can you give an example of the sound per se. youtube or whatever. I was playing w. my FM4 last night and getting some really acidy sounds.
     
  12. rnilson

    rnilson

    Mar 8, 2008
    Kansas City, MO
    There is literally hundreds of examples you can find on the internet....
    Here is just the first one I clicked on.