TC Electronic Classic 450 - owners, help me!

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by stasboroda, Jul 16, 2013.

  1. stasboroda

    stasboroda чатлани&

    Aug 14, 2008
    VRN
    Hi, guys

    I have a TC Electronic Classic 450 bass amp. It sounds great, I played a lot of gigs with him and everything was fine.
    But a few days ago something happened (perhaps it was faulty wire) and an amplifier burned.
    My gear/guitar tech is well versed in such devices, he began to repair this amp. But 3 microchips was melt and we can't read their labeling.

    Anybody can get a pics of printed circuit board or tell me labeling of these chips? I labeled them with numbers 1, 2 and 3 on the attached pics.

    $15 on paypal for someone, who can help me ))

    Stan,
    Russia

    PS: TC product specialist didn't help me :meh:

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  2. stasboroda

    stasboroda чатлани&

    Aug 14, 2008
    VRN
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  3. grey area

    grey area

    Sep 2, 2009
    almeria spain
    i, sure one of the techs here will be able to id those chips for you stan.
    good luck
     
  4. bassguppy

    bassguppy

    Jan 8, 2003
    Queens
    Hmm.... Not sure if its applicable but TC did a recall on some amps that had an issue with mediocre parts that could cause a shock. Maybe check out the TC thread and see if its mentioned or if that could be the cause.
     
  5. 2 and 3 could be current sense resistors, the 8 pin no clue. possibilities about 400,000 for these. Someone crack theirs open and take a high res pic.
     
  6. Wish I had access to one or a schematic to help you (no pay needed). I can't believe no TC owner has stepped up to the plate yet to help?
     
  7. stasboroda

    stasboroda чатлани&

    Aug 14, 2008
    VRN
    still waiting pics. $15 on paypal for someone, who can help me ))
     
  8. Email TC. They probably aren't going to give you the schematic but should ID the parts and suggest what else to look at to avoid PassinW's repeat failure scenario. If you're lucky they might send you a new board if it was a recall. Their rep could use a boost.

    Is the board in question photographable by taking off the access panel? I doubt any TB'er is going to take your 15 bucks for helping you out, it's not the TB way.
     
  9. stasboroda

    stasboroda чатлани&

    Aug 14, 2008
    VRN
    Answer from TC:
     

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  10. grey area

    grey area

    Sep 2, 2009
    almeria spain
    i wouldn't call that helpfull.
    come on guys. help this fella out. please? pretty please?
     
  11. The forum rep is out of his remit. You'll have to go higher in the food chain.

    What you have to appreciate is these new amps aren't easy fixes. Without intimate knowledge you'll be about as capable as a gorrilla with a screwdriver. Trouble is the schematic gives away hard won IP. Rock and hard place, stuck between.

    Just getting the chip numbers isn't enough without high level help. The burned up stuff could easily be only symptomatic of the real source of smoke loss. If you're lucky you can get a TC tech online with your tech , else you got no hope.
     
  12. stasboroda

    stasboroda чатлани&

    Aug 14, 2008
    VRN
    My gear tech can fix it, no doubt.

    I didn't ask for advice on repairing or any recommendations. I just need someone who has the same amplifier and willing to spend 10 minutes of their time to help me.
     
  13. Bassamatic

    Bassamatic keepin' the beat since the 60's

    If you have to call them - use this dialaround # - 101 6868. You dial that and then dial like you are calling overseas. The per minute rates are really low and there is no minimum. It just shows up on your phone bill as a charge. We've used it for years.

    Good Luck with that.

    By the way - the advice is correct - the burned parts are not the problem - they are the result of the problem.
     
  14. stasboroda

    stasboroda чатлани&

    Aug 14, 2008
    VRN
    still waiting pics. $25 on paypal for someone, who can help me ))
     
  15. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Inactive

    Sorry OP but I really feel you are wasting your time. If you want the amp repaired do as TCE advised and send it in for service. When you get it back it will be repaired and all updates performed. Possibly even replaced with a new unit. Sometimes you have to go with the flow and not try to swim upstream.
     
  16. stasboroda

    stasboroda чатлани&

    Aug 14, 2008
    VRN
    Shipping and repair costs are comparable to the price of such used amplifier in working condition.
     
  17. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Inactive

    And???

    You want the amp repaired or what? Sending the amp back to the manufacturer is the obvious choice for your unit. It's that or buy a different amp.
     
  18. stasboroda

    stasboroda чатлани&

    Aug 14, 2008
    VRN
    I have different amp. And I have great repairman, who can fix it. WE NEED ONLY PARTS NUMBERS OF THREE CHIPS!

    I can call to TC, but how I can to explain exactly which parts I need by phone??
     
  19. Well I can make out Q8 for #3, maybe the component ID is on the other side of the board for #1 and #2. With those ID's you could call a tech.
     
  20. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Inactive

    For an Op-amp to look like that, something has gone catastrophically wrong with the amp. I fear that the chips are only the tip of the iceberg. I think that in all likelihood TCE service will simply replace the entire board. It's the easiest, quickest and cheapest route for them to follow. This means, in essence, that they return a new amp to you.

    As a thought, did you perhaps use the DI with a mixer that had phantom power enabled??