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Tech 21 Fly vs. Trace E. Transit B vs Valeton Dapper

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by chandman1004, Feb 14, 2018.


  1. chandman1004

    chandman1004 Supporting Member

    Jun 28, 2008
    I really would like one of these three to be a mini pedal that I could use to take to practice and not have too much to carry. However, I am not sure if any get a "vintage" type tone. I know what a sansamp sounds like, modern , kind of scooped. However, no idea what a Trace sounds like, and definitely have not heard a Valeton. There are a few videos of these, but all seem to be pretty bright sounding settings.
    Right now I use a Mesa Subway preamp, TC Corona chorus and a MXR m87 compressor.

    Can any of these be dialed in to a similar vintage-y sound?
     
  2. chandman1004

    chandman1004 Supporting Member

    Jun 28, 2008
    Forgot to mention, not really interested in a Zoom. Just to many settings to fiddle with.
     
  3. TodaysTomSawyer

    TodaysTomSawyer Supporting Member

    May 2, 2017
    Northern Oklahoma
    The Tech 21 VT Bass DI (any version) will give you great "vintage" tones. Tech 21 Sansamp is more modern but can get great results utilizing the Blend knob. Not sure about Trace Elliot or Valeton
     
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  4. BassikLee

    BassikLee Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 13, 2004
    Deltona, FL
    Owner: Brevard Sound Systems
    I had the tech21, and sent it back. I have the Dapper, and like it. If you're not looking for that sansamp grind, the Dapper is great. I much prefer the effects on this one over the Bass Fly Rig. I have not tried the Trace.
     
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  5. mattattack187

    mattattack187 Bass Enthusiast Supporting Member

    Feb 2, 2012
    Ellsworth, ME
    The Sansamp on the Fly Rig is the VT Bass circuit which with the Character knob you can achieve anywhere from classic SVT tones, flip top and modern sounds.
     
  6. chandman1004

    chandman1004 Supporting Member

    Jun 28, 2008
    Interesting on it being the VT bass circuit on the fly. Would not expect have expected that.
     
  7. Agosix

    Agosix Supporting Member

    May 7, 2013
    Woodhaven NY
    May want to consider a Boss GT1B
     
  8. chandman1004

    chandman1004 Supporting Member

    Jun 28, 2008
    So I got the Valeton Dapper based on cost, 169 on Amazon right now. After one short practice , I actually was a little surprised at the sound. Not sure about the Q or the octave yet, but the compressor actually seemed to work and the amp section improved the sound. I will update some more with more use .
     
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  9. chandman1004

    chandman1004 Supporting Member

    Jun 28, 2008
    Dirty Q is useless for me, but maybe someone might use it for something.....Chorus is OK, just wish it had a little more control. For me , the compressor, tuner and eq/bass amp section work well enough for me to keep it.
    One thing I have found.. while tuning , hit the note..adjust...mute.. hit the note again.
     
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  10. chandman1004

    chandman1004 Supporting Member

    Jun 28, 2008
    Two things would make it even better...a line input for practice and -10 pad.
     
  11. MusicDC

    MusicDC

    Mar 13, 2019
    I have been looking at the Sans Amp Fly Rig, the Trace Elliott Transit B, and the Valeton Dapper Bass. If i could have the Sans Amp EQ section and Chorus, with the Transit B's Compressor, Bass Enhancer, and Drive, with the Dapper's Dirty Q and Octaver I would be happy. Separately, It's going to depend on if you will ever need those effects or just a good pre-amp. The Sans Amp and Transit B are now the same price. The Dapper is $150 less. But I don't know what kind of support you'll get. I have dealt with Sans Amp 20 years and they have always provided extra good support. The Sans Amp has the VT EQ Which is killer. They stuffed a lot into the pedal. I understand that they ran out of real estate. I wish they had more options for the octave and compressor. But the way they have it set up was more for obtaining that 70's bass synth sound. I perform a few times a week. I may just have to order a couple and test them out under fire. If I do I will report back.
     
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