1. Please take 30 seconds to register your free account to remove most ads, post topics, make friends, earn reward points at our store, and more!  

Technique is unique to you

Discussion in 'Technique [BG]' started by Bozzy, Mar 22, 2021.


  1. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    Technique is in the pedals. No pedalboard, no technique, no habits.
     
  2. 1bassplayinfool

    1bassplayinfool -Nowhere Man- Gold Supporting Member

    My left hand technique sux...

    20171201_212724.jpg
     
  3. Ric5

    Ric5 Supporting Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    Colorado
    I disclose nothing
    There were several techniques that I thought I invented ... then I watched some instructional videos or interviews of famous players only to see someone invented the same technique 20 to 30 years before me.
     
    Artman and JKos like this.
  4. James Collins

    James Collins

    Mar 25, 2017
    Augusta, GA
    Is it just me, or does he constantly bend both wrists when he's not explaining how to keep your wrists straight?
     
    Max Bogosity likes this.
  5. devnulljp

    devnulljp Supporting Member

    Oct 13, 2009
    BC, Canada
    Admin on the D*A*M Forum
    I think you're (possibly) wrong
     
    Artman likes this.
  6. klyph

    klyph Supporting Member

    Mar 28, 2009
    Cape Cod
    I might take some heat for this, but the height of the player seems to be a factor. I know a few excellent bassists who have been playing for decades with bent wrists. They are all skinny guys over 6’2”. Sometimes my wrist aches just watching them! I know plenty of short players, just as good, none of them play like that. Caveat emptor.
     
  7. JakobT

    JakobT

    Jan 9, 2014
    Oslo, Norway
    The hat is in fact one of the main factors in preventing injury. :)
     
    Artman and SemiDriven like this.
  8. JakobT

    JakobT

    Jan 9, 2014
    Oslo, Norway
    I wonder why this guy's right hand doesn't simply fall off. :)

     
    OogieWaWa and Kipp Harrington like this.
  9. tvbop

    tvbop

    Mar 11, 2021
    Sfunny. In the classical world you are taught to hold ur instrument one way and one way only with knowledge honed from 100s of years of consideration yet in the pop world we see all manner of weird unhealthy practises....look at poor old Phil Collins for eg.
    Those bassists with the bent wrists? No way, keep it straight you'll be pleased u did in 40 years time.
     
  10. BarfanyShart

    BarfanyShart

    Sep 19, 2019
    DC Metro
    Your body is not invincible. In music school I saw a number of young kids GO OUT because of repetitive stress injuries, and that's with near constant oversight and classical instruction. Then there's all the random tragedies that start befallen your body as you get older. Ergonomically, bass guitar is a very poorly-designed instrument, and every minute you spend taking technique seriously now will add up to years in the future that you will be able to continue playing.
     
    Groove Doctor likes this.
  11. actually "bend" wrists is a bad thing, make no mistake about it!

    folks posting about their decades of experience saying it either matters or does not, i think it's not so black and white.

    my day job is teaching violin - in that case, if the left wrist is allowed to bend, and a student plays like that for too long, they are guaranteed to have problems.

    however, if you play enough your body will generally either ease towards a more straight-wristed position, OR you will find a way to weasle more comfort out of a bent-wrist position.

    over time you are really likely to develop into a technique that will work for you. the trouble is that is not 100%, and you really may benefit from exploring more ways of playing. keep up the hard work, it's worth it!!
     
    Artman likes this.
  12. Ric5

    Ric5 Supporting Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    Colorado
    I disclose nothing
    I also like to keep my wrist straight

    ruby03.jpg
     
    Artman likes this.
  13. SemiDriven

    SemiDriven Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2012
    Milwaukee, WI
    One of these weeks, I'm gonna do some research and find the definitive, hands-down, best technique for right-hand (plucking, picking, slapping), and left-hand.

    :)

    In the mean time, I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing. If my wrist(s) are yelling at me today, I'll figure out what I did wrong yesterday and adjust. For example, usually for finger plucking that means a straighter wrist, lighter touch, and an overall relaxed approach.

    FWIW, this all works better in a controlled environment such as practice time with me, myself, and I. At gigs, if I can't hear myself well, that's when I start to dig in all the time and can cause problems the next day and beyond.

    I'm getting better at dialing in a sound that I can hear with a lighter touch. Of course this all goes out the window on certain songs when the drummer and guitars decide to be stupid loud.
     
  14. Good post.

    I’ve been a long term bassist as well. I started off as a self taught guitarist and became
    a fairly fluid finger picker 4 years before picking up the bass. The transition to the bass was almost effortless, mainly due to the size difference. That said, I still have a few glitches in my technique. So far 50 plus years later, no health issues, but a few lessons in my youth sure wouldn’t hurt me any.
     
  15. James Collins

    James Collins

    Mar 25, 2017
    Augusta, GA
    Mini rant to follow: I hate when people talk about classical guitar technique as it relates to bass guitar. It definitely can be used but most of what people explain is wrong. Also, it makes no sense to talk about classical guitar technique if you sit with the bass on your right leg or have the neck parallel to the horizon.
     
  16. Koshchei

    Koshchei

    Mar 17, 2019
    Peterborough, ON
    I agree with you that technique is unique. We don't all share the same body, so have to do things a bit differently to get the same result. Without seeing pictures, I'm not sure how dangerous your wrist position might be for you in the long-term, but as long as your playing is relaxed, you warm up completely before really hitting it, and you stop if you experience any discomfort whatsoever, you'll probably be ok.
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2021
  17. Well, it seems that the majority of people here at TB feel that what you are doing is wrong and I would have to agree with them. I know that you are not hearing what you had hoped for. Don't use someone else's bad habit (even professionals) to justify your own. It's certainly not healthy and it will catch up with you eventually. You are in the early stages of bass playing and now is the time to address this issue. I had the same problem as you and it was very awkward for me to alter my plucking hand technique. I started having wrist/tendon problems early on and it didn't take me long to make the adjustment(s) that were necessary for me to play without strain and pain. I tried the floating thumb technique for weeks and it was just too awkward for me. So I developed a "floating anchor" type of approach and now I can literally play for hours without and fatigue or pain. It took me a while to get used to the adjustment but I am sooooooo glad I did. Now my wrist stays pretty darn flat and I am rewarded for it. I strongly suggest that you begin your "adjustment" now... that is, if you want to play bass (without pain) into the future. Good luck.
     
    Artman likes this.
  18. MCS4

    MCS4 Supporting Member

    Sep 26, 2012
    Fort Lauderdale, FL
    I played with my bass slung super low for a few years, but it didn't start to cause any pain until I really started putting in a lot of hours in rehearsals and gigs, at which point I bumped up my strap height to varying degrees, where I have fluctuated for many years. Ironically, I now find myself dropping my strap height a bit lower at times because it is more comfortable for my plucking hand shoulder, which has some issues.

    I played with medium to high action for several years because I liked the tone and the ability to play very aggressively without any possible fret noise. Now I have periodic issues with pain in both hands that require me to play with lower action than I specifically prefer, but I appreciate that there are benefits to low action as well.

    I played with various plucking and picking techniques for 15+ years before I started having any issues. Now I have made some adjustments to those techniques to stave off injuries, particularly with a pick, and I go through periods of hand or wrist pain where I have to temporarily modify my technique even further.

    All this is to say that the techniques that work for someone now might or might not work from years from now, and various adjustments me be necessary as time goes by and circumstances change.
     
    Artman likes this.
  19. BarfanyShart

    BarfanyShart

    Sep 19, 2019
    DC Metro
    I find OP's lack of faith disturbing ... I'm going to be a good boy and put my elbow brace on today!
     
  20. mrcbass

    mrcbass

    Jan 14, 2016
    Sacramento, CA
    Technique is unique to an individual and in many cases, you are correct that one should do things the way they are comfortable to them. I really do believe this - with a couple of caveats:
    1. Be very careful when ignoring technique advice when it come to things that could become physical problems over time. As mentioned above, 2 years is not enough time to really have insight on potential long term issues and once you get to the pain, it's possible to cause permanent damage (may never be comfortable playing again). And unlearning bad habits is incredibly frustrating and time consuming.
    2. Most technique advice is produced to help you do something "better" (faster, easier, more consistently, more reliably, etc) than if you used an inferior technique. It doesn't always seem like it at the time, long term work on a new technique will produce good results in the long run.

    Pay attention to the differences in techniques that regard health maintenance (body positions) and those that support "better" playing (fingering, plucking methods, etc). Heed the health ones and follow or ignore the others as they fit your needs.
     
  21. Primary

    Primary TB Assistant

    Here are some related products that TB members are talking about. Clicking on a product will take you to TB’s partner, Primary, where you can find links to TB discussions about these products.

     
    May 8, 2021

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.