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Tell me about Fodera compressed roundwound stainless steels

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by Lebowsky, Feb 11, 2014.

  1. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Lausanne, Switzerland
    I am looking for new strings, and am currently eyeing Fodera compressed roundwounds, as they are 45-65-85-110 and available in extra long scale.

    However, I don't know what is meant by "compressed roundwound". Can you describe the sound and feel? I am looking for new strings for a Gibson Ripper, and I'd like something aggressive sounding, in the Ernie Ball/Rotosound range. I much prefer those to DR or Sadowsky for instance.

    So what can you tell me about Foderas?
  2. punkjazzben


    Jun 26, 2008
    I can't say much about the construction technique, but my experience of Fodera nickels (not SS, I know) is that they were were very aggressive with lots of bitey low-mids that cut through a loud band mix like nothing else I've played. Maybe it was in my head, but they also felt the most 'balanced' of all the balanced sets I've tried; felt great under the fingers.
  3. vbchaos


    Sep 5, 2011
    Groningen, The Netherlands
    Uncompensated endorsing user: fEARful
    No experience with the Foderas, but I use Rotosound Preassurewounds alot.
    My understanding is that they are made like roundwounds and (afterwards??) pressed to loose the round shape a bit.
    I bought the first set in august 2012 for studio use and got used to them alot. Gigged that set until november 2013 when we hit the studio again and I bought a new set. Like rounds, the preassurewounds have some ZING going on that get lost after quite a while. In studio I like to turn up the high mids alot to get that percussive clackclack from the strings on the frets, a bit like Steve Harris but not in that extreme way.
    The preassurewounds have a lot of punch! Listen to the song in my signature, those are preassurewounds on an Ibanez 605 through a full-tube pre-amp. Awesome punch

    anyway, I recently switched back to rounds (lo riders) because the preassurewounds tend to sound a bit too much like flats when they sustain. I liked that alot when we wre with one bass and one guitar, but now we have keys also and I need some more ZING to kick the mix' ass

    In any way, I strongly advise to try preassurewounds/compressed wounds. Number 1 choice in studio for me!!!
  4. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Lausanne, Switzerland
    thanks guys. one thing I forgot to add - this is to play live and with a pick.
  5. mmbongo

    mmbongo Chicken Pot Pie. My three favorite things!! Supporting Member

    They are compression wound which means the windings are compressed tight onto the core, like DR's. They are also round core, like DR. They are nothling like 'pressurewounds' or 'compressors' which literally have the windings compressed smooth after they are wound. They just sqeeze...or compress...more windings onto the core.

    I have not used the steels but I do use Fodera nickels. Compared to DR Sunbeam nickels the Foderas are more aggressive.

    You can also get these in singles and custom sets at www.bassstringsonline.com complete with a TB user discount :)
  6. Jon Moody

    Jon Moody Commercial User

    Sep 9, 2007
    Kalamazoo, MI
    Manager of Digital Brand Development and Product Development at GHS Strings
    Just as a point of clarity, 'pressurewound' strings have the wrap wire compressed PRIOR to winding on the core wire. So in essence, the wrap wire around the core is more of an oval shape.

    If we did it after the wrap wire was on the core, it would affect the core wire itself and the shape of the string.
  7. Root 5

    Root 5

    Nov 25, 2001
    ^^^^^ Cool! I didn't know this! I always assumed they'd be wrapped and then compressed.
  8. SLaPiNFuNK

    SLaPiNFuNK Commercial User

    Jul 28, 2006
    LA California
    Owner: BassStringsOnline.com
    They are basically wound at a higher tension to "compress" more windings into a tighter place. But not changing the shape of the winding prior to winding. So they feel like round wound strings but with smaller diameter outer windings.
  9. vbchaos


    Sep 5, 2011
    Groningen, The Netherlands
    Uncompensated endorsing user: fEARful
    Did not know this either! Always thought preassure and compressed wounds would be the same more or less.
    Thanks for the update :)
  10. GK Growl

    GK Growl

    Dec 31, 2011
    Not sure if this applies to Fodera strings, but in DR's case, they also have a much smaller diameter outer wrap than other makes as well. This and the "compression" helps to create a much smoother feel.
  11. tylerwylie


    Jan 5, 2008
    Dunwoody, GA
    They are a bit stiffer than DR roundcore counterparts.
  12. GK Growl

    GK Growl

    Dec 31, 2011
    Do the Foderas have the smaller outer wraps like DRs?
  13. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Lausanne, Switzerland
    hmm, I think the thread derailed a bit from my intended question ;) I am not really interested in the tech behind the compression, more in how those strings compare to Ernie Ball or Rotos Roundwound Stainless Steels, in terms of sound, feel and aggressivity.

    thanks! :)
  14. They might be good strings for aggressive pick style rock bass playing but most of the people who buy Fodera strings probably don't fit that demographic. With endorsers like Victor Wooten and Anthony Jackson they attract bass players chasing tones like those guys. I'd think companies like Dunlop, Rotosound and Dean Markley have more devotees from the rock camp. I'm guessing as a steel roundwound string they should fit the bill for what you're after. Worth a shot anyways. Let us know if you try them and what you think.
  15. Toptube

    Toptube Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2009
    I currently have a set on my Ibanez SRT. The set is two or three months old, now.

    The only negative I have to say is kind of a big one:

    They are pretty grabby on your fingers. I don't mean rough (I don't really care about roughness), I mean they grip your fingers. This makes them one of the "slowest" feeling strings to play, that I have had in awhile. SIT Silencers also have this issue.
    It takes quite a bit of time, for them to smooth out.

    On to the positives:

    good balance in feel and tone, from string to string.
    A little shy in the lows, compared to most hex cores---but otherwise a good, even sound. They actually sound a lot like Daddario XLs, to me.
    They have an open/airyness to the highs and high mids
    not particularly bright, for a stainless. But they keep the open/airy quality for a good while.
  16. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Lausanne, Switzerland
    thanks. that's exactly why I was asking this. most users seem to be more in the jazz/funk camp, than playing drop D with a pick and heavy distortion ;)

    thanks, that was very interesting! slow strings would definitely be a no-go for me, but I can't say anything until I tried them...

    oh man, finding 45-65-85-110 strings that can be strung through the body of my Ripper is a quest I never thought would be that difficult. I'd stick with Ernie Balls if I could actually, but unfortunately it's impossible to get a 110 E string. Bassstringsonline can't sell Ernie Ball outside the US, and single strings are are nowhere to be found in Europe :(

    edit: heh, actually, it's possible to order single strings from Ernie Ball France directly. might just do that. Not cheap though! Since I already bought Rotos (haven't tried them yet), I might also buy Foderas, and compare the 3.
  17. punkjazzben


    Jun 26, 2008
    Try the Foderas. You might like then after all. Alternatively, I hear good things about Circle K custom sets.
  18. La Bella stainless steels might be good choice. They used to be called hard rockin' steels and they come in extra long scale in a variety of gauges. D'Addario pro steels also come in extra long but I don't know if they have the gauge you want and then I think Ken Smith makes extra long scale steels as well.