I've come so close to buying one so many times it's not even funny. My current favorite amp is the genz shuttle 6.0. I like that flat bright sound it has and I can get it pumping when i want to. I also enjoy its pre amp texture. I've been researching for quite a while now digging for comparison threads and have gathered some bits and pieces. My question is can the Wd800 do that flat sound without a bunch of tweaking? I think I remember reading the tones between the genz and Mesa were similar in some ways? I love my genz but sometimes I just wish it had a bit more output. With everything set at noon I get the clipping light. I know i can push it past that due to its build design and I do but I keep reading the Mesa can get redicously loud while staying clean which to me sounds like it has the kind of output I'm looking for.