Testing Compressors: Cali, Smoothie, Empress, Diamond, Keeley, FEA, Darkglass, Doc Lloyd, JHS & more

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by scubaduba, May 21, 2018.


  1. jacoby75

    jacoby75 Supporting Member

    Mar 11, 2010
    Coldwater, MI
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    There’s always a case for keeping both, lol.
     
  2. dedpool1052

    dedpool1052

    Jan 10, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    Dear Señor Scuba,

    The master list on page 1 hasn't been updated in nearly 3 months. Are there any new comps to add?



    I've recently become interested in compressors, and have read a few of the reviews you posted.

    One I'm curious about, that isn't listed, is the Keeley Bassist. Simple 3-knob set-up. Seems like a solid, introductory compressor.
     
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  3. scubaduba

    scubaduba Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Dec 23, 2003
    Michigan
  4. kranahan

    kranahan Supporting Member

    Aug 19, 2009
    San Francisco Bay Area
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  5. Lowendtech

    Lowendtech Happily trending in my own peculiar direction. Supporting Member

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  6. Nihilistic Milk

    Nihilistic Milk

    Mar 8, 2021
    I didn’t bring my board to band practice today and badly wanted a compressor half-way through the set.

    I tried the only one the jam space had in stock, a JHS 3 Series Compressor.

    I’ve owned many compressors and have tried countless others. All of them have been great. I didn’t think it was possible for a compressor to make things sound worse, but this one did. It thinned my sound. It was absolutely totally unusable.

    To be fair, it is a $99 pedal aimed at guitarists.

    I don’t like bashing products, but I thought some of you might want to be aware if you’re thinking of buying without trying.

    YMMV, of course. Also, I’m precisely talking about the 3 Series Compressor. I believe JHS has two other compressors. I haven’t tried them and wouldn’t mind doing so for I don’t believe it’s fair to judge a brand based on its affordable series.
     
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  7. jacoby75

    jacoby75 Supporting Member

    Mar 11, 2010
    Coldwater, MI
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
  8. Nihilistic Milk

    Nihilistic Milk

    Mar 8, 2021
    If anyone wants to try the Cali76 Compact Bass, I’ve posted mine (my third one, actually) in the classifieds. I’m even including a 20% discount code for the Empress Website for when you’ll want to try the Empress Bass Compressor :bassist:
     
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  9. old_skool

    old_skool

    Aug 17, 2000
    San Francisco
    How well do ‘bass’ compressors work on guitar. Specifically Diamonds, but also interested in general how well they work or why they wouldn’t work well. I’ve been tempted by a Cali Bass, Keeleys, etc but would like dual functionality if I’m to go down that road.

    I understand why a guitar comp might not work as well on bass but vise versa?
     
  10. deepestend

    deepestend Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 21, 2003
    Brooklyn via Austin and NOLA
    Guitar/Bass Builder and Social Media at Sadowsky
    It seems to me that it wouldn't matter and that a guitar should work just as well, if not better, with a bass comp.
     
  11. monkeyfinger

    monkeyfinger Moderator Staff Member

    In general, most "bass" comps will work with guitar but some may not be optimal. The lowest frequencies of the bass have a lot of energy which tends to make compressor clamp down too hard on the signal. This can make the bass sound dull. Bass compressors usually have some sort of compensation for that, such as a high pass filter on the detection circuit, or parallel compression. The long wave-lengths of bass generally require slower attack and longer release settings. The tonal goals of bass, such as emphasizing punch over sustain, also lend themselves to different compression parameters. So, while a bass compressor will work, it may not be optimal for guitar. I would look for general purpose compressors with full parameter control if you need it to serve both instruments.
     
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  12. Moody Tuner

    Moody Tuner

    Jun 30, 2017
    The Darkglass Hyper Luminal has a guitar mode. I use it in both my guitar and bass rigs.
     
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  13. TheLopp

    TheLopp

    Dec 30, 2013
    The Diamond bass comp has a toggle switch to change the EQ point from Bass to guitar, and it works really well with guitar as well.
     
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  14. old_skool

    old_skool

    Aug 17, 2000
    San Francisco
    Thanks for the insight, everyone!
     
  15. jacoby75

    jacoby75 Supporting Member

    Mar 11, 2010
    Coldwater, MI
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    I'm pleased to report that . . . now that I'm going back to my rackmount setup . . . again . . . don't ask, it's too soon . . . the OvniFx Opto Smoothie works FANTASTICALLY in the effects loop of my rack pre with the -20dB engaged. Sounds so fat and creamy. I love it.
     
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  16. Lowendtech

    Lowendtech Happily trending in my own peculiar direction. Supporting Member

    But.... your pedal board takes up an entire bachelor apartment....... wot?
     
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  17. jacoby75

    jacoby75 Supporting Member

    Mar 11, 2010
    Coldwater, MI
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    Therein lies the conundrum. Don’t worry. The pedalboard isn’t all going away.
     
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  18. ibuki

    ibuki

    Jul 4, 2019
    How long is the waiting time for FEA OPTI-FET?
    I am waiting for a long time...
     
  19. Lowendtech

    Lowendtech Happily trending in my own peculiar direction. Supporting Member

    I’m not worried about that. It doesn’t even fit out the doorway.
     
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  20. jacoby75

    jacoby75 Supporting Member

    Mar 11, 2010
    Coldwater, MI
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    Truth. It’s physically incapable of ever leaving. I’ll have to remove a wall.
     
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