Testing Compressors: Cali, Smoothie, Empress, Diamond, Keeley, FEA, Darkglass, Doc Lloyd, JHS & more

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by scubaduba, May 21, 2018.


  1. It works with everything and it's the easier to setup, in my experience.
    After receiving my BCP Jr I even thought about selling my Bassist but luckily I didn't. It just works, great compressor.
     
  2. scubaduba

    scubaduba Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Dec 23, 2003
    Michigan
    This arrived but will be doing a review of the Okko Cocaine first.

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  3. packhowitzer

    packhowitzer 155mm of pure destruction

    Apr 20, 2011
    Atlanta
    So I have to admit, I can't offer a review on compressors like some of the experts here- but I can offer my .02

    I received my OVNIFX Opto Smoothie in the mail today. I got the version with the internal dip-switches that can set to "Tough", "Smooth", or a combination of the two.

    My impressions so far:

    I can already tell, this is going to be an "always on" pedal for me (much like my fdeck HPF-3). At the settings I was using (shown in pic), there wasn't a drastic difference between on an off at first listen. BUT once I had it on for about 15 minutes of playing - I started to notice how much tighter and more defined my notes sounded. Also, I put on some songs on youtube to jam along to on my studio monitors and that's when I REALLY started to notice the punch and articulation.

    I'll know a lot more once I play it at my weekly P&W gig on Sunday (with my regular rig and in a live setting). But so far- so good.
    And a HUGE +1000 to @bongomania for having the wherewithal to have taken the time to review practically every compressor known to man, and have a vision of making one that might be better than most, and then making that vision a reality. That is a true testament to American ingenuity and inventiveness, and I'm proud to own one.

    I'll post more when I've had a chance to really put it through its paces. But I'm really liking it so far.
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  4. KB5

    KB5

    Sep 28, 2012
    I can't imaging parting with my Diamond Bass compressor but I really want to check out the OVNIFX Opto Smoothie. To me the diamond is everything I had always wanted in a comp. When it's on it's virtually disappears. When I turn it off I realize how important it is to my sound. It's true what they say about the Diamond and how it sweetens your sound. What draws me to the OVNIFX is the the versatility that comes with the additional controls. Maybe I need two compressors on my board.
     
  5. FirewalZ

    FirewalZ

    Aug 14, 2014
    S.E. Michigan
    Im pretty much in the exact same boat with the Diamond as well.....
     
  6. Ross McLochness

    Ross McLochness Living Room Bassist Extraordinaire Supporting Member

    Aug 20, 2013
    Eden Prairie, MN
    Just got my new comp today. Love it!
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  7. deepestend

    deepestend Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 21, 2003
    Brooklyn via Austin and NOLA
    Website and Social Media at Sadowsky
    I had a chance to check out my Keeley Bassist through headphones last night and really like it a lot. I'm finding that if I give a little boost with my Wren and Cuff Super Russia boost side (germ buffer boost) and then run it through the keeley comp using their basic setting with the level turned slightly down, I get a nice, fat punchy tone. I'll be able to test it with a band on wed.
     
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  8. scubaduba

    scubaduba Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Dec 23, 2003
    Michigan
    Thoughts on the OKKO Cocaine:

    Ok. Here we have an interesting compressor — certainly one of the most unique I've tested to date. For one, it is both a compressor and preamp with individual Bass and Treble control. Secondly, it has an independent foot switch to activate a boost control. Thirdly, Okko claims it is capable of working in the reverse of a compressor by amplifying quieter notes.

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    Ok let's dive in.

    The Okko Cocaine is hand made in Germany. The enclosure has a very cool almost spackled paint looking finish. The paint job has a lot of dimension and is definitely unique in the pedal world. I've never seen a paint job on a pedal quite like this. In some ways it resembles the finish on the Walrus Deep Six but it is smoother. At the same time, it has a subdued posh look to it. It won't pop off your pedal board but it looks classy.

    The pedal runs off a 9 volt battery or typical Boss type center negative 9 volt power supply. It features an internal voltage doubling circuit for more headroom. There is plenty of headroom on tap. I played through it with 5 different basses with never a hint of distortion. It is also very quiet. Not quite FEA level quiet, but very quiet in all but extreme settings.

    There is no indicator light to show when your signal is over the threshold.

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    Instead of Attack/Release/Threshold controls the compressor is controlled by just the Sustain and Squash knobs. The SUSTAIN knob, according to Okko, works like an "upward" compressor – leaving the attack and strong notes unchanged while amplifying quieter notes and subtleties of your playing and increasing the sustain. Surprisingly, that is what it seems to do. It does seem to bring up quieter notes. Hard to describe but it has a great dynamic feel to it. Almost like it is taking all of your playing into consideration and just bumping it up both in feel and sound. When turned all the way up, it does feel somewhat choked and a little extreme. 1:00 or lower (more counter clockwise) was plenty for my taste. It's got that dip and swell thing going on when you turn the knob to 4:00 or higher.

    The SQUASH knob, according to Okko, goes from subtle tone-enhancing to a more pronounced compression effect, but preserve the attack of your instrument and keep its character even at full tilt. I'm not totally aligned with that statement though I can appreciate the spirit of it. At full tilt, to my ear anyway, the pedal starts feeling artificial but certainly useable. It isn't a heavy squash like many compressors so this isn't a huge criticism.

    This thing has a great feel to it and the SUSTAIN and SQUASH are highly interactive. There are all kinds of sweet spots to be found. My personal favorite is with SUSTAIN at about 10:00 - 11:00 and SQUASH at about 2:30 - 3:00. Real nice big, clear, and punchy tone. Another sweet spot is SUSTAIN at about 3:00 and SQUASH around 10:00 which brings out the amplified quieter notes more but keeping a decent squash on them.

    If you have ever heard of the Okko Coco Comp the SING control is essentially the SUSTAIN control on the Cocaine. The PUSH control is the Volume control on the Cocaine.

    The compressor is very transparent and very clear. But don't take that to mean boring. It is not at all. It takes your existing tone and makes it better. It's like the anti colored compressor to color your tone. Yes, read that again. It doesn't color your tone like the Diamond or Mad Professor Forest Green or Eventide or SolidGoldFX Horizon as examples but it is definitely doing something good for your tone that you will most certainly notice when you turn it off.

    I would not suggest it as a limiter. It's not going to shine for that purpose. It will add sustain (if you want it too).

    There is plenty of gain on tap with the VOLUME control used to achieve unity or way beyond.

    The lower right foot switch activates the compressor and there is a white LED that lights when activated.

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    OK, there's more. That's just the compressor detail.

    The Cocaine is also a preamp type pedal with independent BASS and TREBLE controls that effect the comp circuit. There is a ton of range in both controls. The pedal is capable of producing huge additions of bass for a huge bottom end pillow type effect. There is more treble on hand than I personally ever need. The cut is also very effective. If you have ever desired a compressor that spices things up by compressing your signal but literally dial in as much bottom end as you could ever want and adding back some glassy top end, this is it. To be clear, the EQ section is not like a high/low pass filter controlling which frequencies the device is going to comrpess. No, you are EQing the outgoing compressed circuit.

    There is no independent control for the EQ section. Noon is pretty neutral sounding for both dials.

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    If that weren't enough, there is still a unique BOOST control activated by the second foot switch. It too is quite unique in that it provides 15db of full range linear boost when turned all the way to the right. But turned
    counter clockwise it activates a mid boost. Noon is approximately neutral (and unity gain). I didn't find the mid boost side all that useful with bass though your mileage may vary. The boost circuit is independent of the compressor and can be activated on its own separate from the compressor. When the effect is not on, the boost may still be used. When the effect is on, the boost is post effect meaning it is boosting the compressed EQ'd signal. The Boost circuit has a blue LED that illuminates when active.

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    So you essentially have a compressor, EQ, and boost in one pedal. You could get away with this pedal alone into a direct box. In that sense it is extremely versatile.

    If you want something quite transparent, very open sounding, with some tone magic, albeit a little quirky you should check out this pedal. You need to think of it differently than a typical compressor though and allow yourself to experiment with the different positions and interactions between the Sustain and Squash knobs and then dial in more Bass and Treble to taste. You need to experiment and find your sweet spots. Then when you want to pop out even more, well tap the Boost switch and bam, there you are. The Okko Cocaine would not be my first choice as a subtle compressor to even out string dynamics and definitely not as a limiter.

    Both foot switches are true bypass. Input/output jacks are on the left and right sides with power input on the top. Construction quality is very good. It's about the size of the original Diamond compressor.

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    I'm not a big fan of the name "Cocaine" but I must admit, playing with this pedal is addicting. It really is.

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  9. Low Down Brown

    Low Down Brown Supporting Member

    Jan 8, 2018
    Erf
    Whale dam.

    I didn't even know I wanted one of these until I read that review...
     
  10. scubaduba

    scubaduba Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Dec 23, 2003
    Michigan
    This arrived. Markbass Compressore.

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  12. Jim C

    Jim C I believe in the trilogy; Fender, Stingray, + G&L Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2008
    Bethesda, MD
    I'm first US born; both sides of the family came from the old country.
    I wanted to like the MB LMII as well as the compressor.
    Surpised that I didn't like either one.
    Don't tell the family...
     
  13. Rojd

    Rojd Supporting Member

    May 29, 2018
    Rocky Mountains
    I picked up a DB-CL a couple of months ago and love it. I spent a bit of time turning knobs and found what I liked, and being a set it and forget type, left it there. I then decided to try the settings you found useful, with a couple of minor tweaks of my own. Holy crow! It just went to another whole level and just sounds awesome. Thanks! :thumbsup:
     
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  14. scubaduba

    scubaduba Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Dec 23, 2003
    Michigan
    Tubey goodness on a Saturday afternoon!

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  15. scubaduba

    scubaduba Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Dec 23, 2003
    Michigan
    Battle of the white pedals this evening.

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  16. sears

    sears Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2005
    ec, md
    Now that you have the Markbass in your paws I wanna know how it fits in with the pantheon. It's what I use but occasionally I think about getting the Cali mini..
     
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  17. extreme

    extreme

    Mar 20, 2000
    I know they're completely different designs, but still both optical circuits...so, how does the Doc Lloyd Photon Death Ray compare to the Effectrode PC-2A?
     
  18. scubaduba

    scubaduba Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Dec 23, 2003
    Michigan
    This arrived

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  19. scubaduba

    scubaduba Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Dec 23, 2003
    Michigan
    For a tube compressor it is pretty bright and relatively transparent. I'll be using it live on Sunday and will then have more thoughts.
     
  20. scubaduba

    scubaduba Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Dec 23, 2003
    Michigan
    Is there a particular aspect you are interested in comparing?

    Here's a review of the Effectrode where I describe the tone:
    Testing Compressors: Cali, Smoothie, Empress, Diamond, Keeley, FEA, Darkglass, Doc Lloyd, JHS & more

    Here's a review of the Doc Lloyd:
    Testing Compressors: Cali, Smoothie, Empress, Diamond, Keeley, FEA, Darkglass, Doc Lloyd, JHS & more

    The Effectrode has power requirements making it not as pedalboard friendly. Both are capable of adding bigness to your tone though the Effectrode has some audible harmonic content and is capable of being more squishy. The Effectrode is bigger which may or may not be a turn off. Photon is more punchy.
     
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