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"Textures" by H.Hancock/ You kids get off my lawn.

Discussion in 'Music Theory [DB]' started by Don Kasper, Dec 10, 2017.


  1. Don Kasper

    Don Kasper Supporting Member

    I sketched this tune up a few decades ago, because I heard it and thought it was beautiful.(Herbie was "flamed" by the Jazz Police back in 1980 when it was released. He composed the tune and sequenced all the instrumental parts.) I wanted to see if I could try and uncover and understand some of what made it beautiful and why I liked it so much.
    I hope the younger generation doesn't skip the struggle (and it was a struggle for me) to explore and transcribe music that may not exist yet/ever in the digital realm, or, will they have to depend on others' "ears", to do the heavy lifting/listening. (I read in a recent post here at TB that someone has "over 2500" tunes on their iPad-thingy - all downloaded from fake books.)
    Sorry -the "chart" below is just a sloppy work-sketch...but it reveals a lot.
    Finally - someday listen to what HH was creating in the years 1960... 1970... 1980...etc. Genius.
    (I wonder if the title "Chameleon" was autobiographical?)
    Thanks.

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  2. brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts
    If he had just done that tune solo on piano we'd probably all be playing it today :roflmao:

    Nice melody, interesting changes.
     
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  3. rickwolff

    rickwolff CGJ Emeritus (Certified Gear Junkie) Retired??? Supporting Member

    Don,

    I see a bunch of lines and dots. Is this supposed to mean something to me? (Hey, not all of us got to study with JB. Even though I was his 'understudy' when he was, like, 16).

    PS I don't know if I ever told you this, but the group I was in with Manfredo Fest was the warm up act for Herbie when he played the Guthrie Theatre in Minneapolis in his 'Headhunter' days. And, yes, I did study briefly with Koussevitzky (OK, maybe that last part isn't exactly 'accurate').
     
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  4. Don Kasper

    Don Kasper Supporting Member

    I just ignore the lines and dots, and just play 4 chromatic quarter notes in each bar!
     
  5. rickwolff

    rickwolff CGJ Emeritus (Certified Gear Junkie) Retired??? Supporting Member

    That's what I did last night on Girl From Ipanema. So this is different how?
     
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  6. A.C. Jobim has (immediately) left the building ...
     
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  7. Tom Lane

    Tom Lane Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Same tune... different name. Audience no wiser!
     
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  8. DrayMiles

    DrayMiles

    Feb 24, 2007
    East Coast
    Hmm... feels more like the girl with emphysema.
     
  9. rickwolff

    rickwolff CGJ Emeritus (Certified Gear Junkie) Retired??? Supporting Member

    Or the girl from Iwo Jima.
     
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  10. Tom Lane

    Tom Lane Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    I think we're going to have to start a TB pun bucket. Anyone who makes a bad pun has to contribute a buck. Kasper will be broke in months!
     
  11. Don Kasper

    Don Kasper Supporting Member

    But.. but...my puns are always GOOD!
    Aren't they?
     
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  12. Bob_Ross

    Bob_Ross Supporting Member

    Dec 29, 2012
    dear lord yes ^^^this
     
  13. turf3

    turf3

    Sep 26, 2011
    ...and is tossing his cookies in the alley behind. Just like he does whenever I play.
     
  14. BrotherMister

    BrotherMister

    Nov 4, 2013
    Scotland
    PVG Membership
    I literally posted two minutes ago in a transcription thread about refusing to slow down transcriptions and putting the heavy listening in, and I'm the ripe old age of 29.
    I still use pencil and paper to write them out, I find that process to be rather therapeutic. Seeing a handwritten chart like that just looks good to me. It might not be practical for a sight reading gig but never the less it is more aesthetically pleasing.
     
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  15. Don Kasper

    Don Kasper Supporting Member

    I hear ya...
    The chart is just a byproduct of the process of struggling/learning/hearing/writing/deciding... I do believe that "something" is lost when the transcription process becomes too easy or (soon) becomes Artificially Intelligently animated.
    The chart is just a facsimile of the knowledge, it is not the (deep) knowledge itself - that belongs ONLY to the Transcriber. IMFO.
    I'm rambling...
    Thanks for your interest, BrotherMister.
     

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