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Thanks to drunk ADULT FEMALE, my Genz-Benz cab died in middle of gig last night.

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by D Bopp, Aug 20, 2017.


  1. D Bopp

    D Bopp Supporting Member

    May 26, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    We were playing a popular song last night and a few YOUNG ADULT FEMALES got up on the side of the stage and were dancing. During the chorus, I waived one of them over to sing the backing vocals with me on my mic.

    ADULT FEMALE comes over to sing, and ends up stepping on my pedals (Boss Bass EQ and TU-3 Tuner). In doing so, she pushed up all the EQ sliders to the max. As that happened, my amp volume cut out and I could smell something burning. Had to play the rest of the gig through straight DI.

    I was playing my Mesa Subway head through a Genz-Benz Neo212 cab. I thought it was the head that was damaged. But today I tested the head on my other cab, and it is working perfectly. So I brought in the cab, and plugged it up. A very slight volume comes out of the tweeter, but no sound from the 12's.

    So what do you think it could be? Is there a fuse inside the cab? I took off the back plate, but it only displayed the input jacks and tweeter dial. In order to get inside the cab I'll have to take off the grill, and remove the speakers. Before I do that I thought I'd ask you guys for any opinions.

    Thank you!
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2017
  2. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa, Product Support-Genz Benz
    Bummer, not sounding good for the home team... unfortunately your cabinet is good for ~600 watts RMS but under the conditions you describe your amp is capable of delivering over 1000 watts RMS. The amp cut out in it's attempt to protect itself and the speakers attached but the difference in power between the amp and speaker was simply too great. This is my best guess, based on having designed both your amp and your speaker.

    I do have a pair of replacement drivers for your cabinet, you can PM me if interested.
     
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  3. I'm assuming this girl was about 17 if she was able to reach your microphone.
     
  4. What's that have to do with his amp problem?
     
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  5. pacojas

    pacojas "FYYA BUN"

    Oct 11, 2009
    MEXICANADAMERICA
    huh? :chicken:
     
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  6. D Bopp

    D Bopp Supporting Member

    May 26, 2007
    Atlanta, GA

    Thank you. When you say amp, are you referring to the head? I'm looking at the speakers, and can't see any tears. Would the speakers just stop working electronically, thus becoming useless?
     
  7. D Bopp

    D Bopp Supporting Member

    May 26, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    Correct. Girl, as in younger than me, but old enough to be in a bar drinking alcohol.
     
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  8. basscooker

    basscooker Commercial User

    Apr 11, 2010
    cincy ky
    Owner, Chopshopamps.com
    Insurance? Chances are there's video evidence somewhere (seems like in any crowd at least one person is rolling at any given time) that should support a legitimate claim to the venue's company that a patron is responsible for your damaged gear. Just a thought. Maybe inviting her to participate waived your right to a claim.... I dunno bur it's worth a look.
     
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  9. guy n. cognito

    guy n. cognito Secret Agent Member Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Nashville, TN
    Sigh....
     
  10. basscooker

    basscooker Commercial User

    Apr 11, 2010
    cincy ky
    Owner, Chopshopamps.com
    I assumed microphone was a metaphor... Followed by an age reference.
     
  11. D Bopp

    D Bopp Supporting Member

    May 26, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    I really put the blame on myself. Non-musicians (and even some musicians) have no concept of gear on the floor. Don't know what pedals are or what they do. I don't really blame her for stepping on them, as that has happened more times than I can count in the past. But before, I used to only use the tuner. I just recently put down the EQ pedal next to it to dial in a little extra mid-range. The volume boost is crazy how much louder it can get than by just the head alone. I should've thought about that.
     
  12. pacojas

    pacojas "FYYA BUN"

    Oct 11, 2009
    MEXICANADAMERICA
    i was hoping not, lol. what's up ol' buddy?!! :):D
     
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  13. guy n. cognito

    guy n. cognito Secret Agent Member Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Nashville, TN
    Using the word "girl" on TB has gotten "controversial" unless your speaking about a minor.
     
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  14. SteveCS

    SteveCS

    Nov 19, 2014
    Hampshire, UK
    Sounds like you've probably melted the voice coil, so to answer your question, yes.
    The correct answer to @agedhorse in this case is "Thanks Andy, I'll PM you right back."

    YMMV, but believe me it shouldn't...
     
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  15. D Bopp

    D Bopp Supporting Member

    May 26, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    Bummer! Ok, doing that now
     
  16. Maybe a woman would have seen the pedalboard & not trampled on it, but alcohol was involved.
    Wait, why was alcohol being served to a girl?


    Ah, so it was a woman!
    Lesson learned, block all oncomers from trampling your gear.

    Hope you can get some drivers w/o breaking the bank.
     
  17. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa, Product Support-Genz Benz
    Yes, the damage would be internally to the speaker itself. Not visible.
     
  18. D Bopp

    D Bopp Supporting Member

    May 26, 2007
    Atlanta, GA

    Ahh, I see what you did there. Ok, I've changed the title of the thread. Is that better?
     
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  19. basscooker

    basscooker Commercial User

    Apr 11, 2010
    cincy ky
    Owner, Chopshopamps.com
    I have to say that it's true about pedals sometimes just get stepped on. I used to play with a guitarist who (sober. AA member) would constantly step on his own pedals by accident. So, yeah, I guess blaming the ...LADY..... 100% might be unfair.

    But hey, you have a great resource in Mr. Field here on TB. You'll be up and running in no time.
     
  20. 74hc

    74hc

    Nov 19, 2015
    California
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    Faital Neo 12PR300 – Avatar Speakers
     

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