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The Blacktop Jazz does not like Drop D

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Stinsok, Jul 21, 2012.


  1. Stinsok

    Stinsok Supporting Member

    Dec 16, 2002
    Central Alabama
    Finally got to play in a band setting tonight.In standard tuning it's fine. Drop D sounded like it need Cialis!
     
  2. Ragoo

    Ragoo

    Oct 14, 2011
    Richardson, Texas
    THICKER STRINGS!
     
  3. Stinsok

    Stinsok Supporting Member

    Dec 16, 2002
    Central Alabama
    Yeah, it has the stock strings on it. I think they are .100's.
     
  4. Baird6869

    Baird6869 RIP Gord Downey. A True Canadian Icon.

    +1
     
  5. I've never bought a new bass that I've liked the stock strings on it. It's pretty much a given that they'll be changed within a few hours anytime I've gotten a new instrument. And yeah, 100 gauge strings for D tuning would be pretty flabby.
     
  6. I use .100 for drop-D on my SR500 most of the time, and it's no problem.
    But I chose my favorite strings, and have the neck and bridge adjusted so the sound doesn't suffer in any way.

    A good setup can demolish generalizations like "Short scale sounds wimpy" or "Blacktops don't like drop-D".

    You broke Equipment Rule #1: NEVER use brand new stuff for a gig.
    Take the time to get to know your gear, and make sure it's going to work correctly before stepping onstage where bad performance can make you look foolish.

    Edit the thread title to "MY Blacktop Jazz does not like Drop D"
     
  7. irvinz

    irvinz

    Nov 23, 2006
    Australia
    has too much gas
    Band setting doesn't always mean gig. Just needs a setup most likely
     
  8. Wallace320

    Wallace320 Commercial User

    Mar 19, 2012
    Milan, Italy
    BlackTop series is MIM so stock equipment is HB7 machineheads. I put Rotosound Swing66 that are surely not the hardest strings around, but the detuner keep tension under control and you drop when you need it

    Cheers,
    Wallace
     
  9. Sinomis666

    Sinomis666

    Apr 16, 2011
    Yeah go for 105-45 gauge strings & higher the action at the bridge on the Estring!
     
  10. Wallace320

    Wallace320 Commercial User

    Mar 19, 2012
    Milan, Italy
    I play fullstep downtuned Stinsok, and you know it for we talked about it when discussing on BlackTop Jazz bass.
    So Sinomis (I'll pretend not having read those "'cifers" out) is right whenever just Ddropping.
    I play D, G, C, F normally and C, G, C, F when detuner's on... I still use mid gauged strings, 'cos bass extender can keep nearly consistent tension down by lower string...
    On regular tuning like yours (each and every bass of mine sport detuner, downtuned or not)
    I don't see no problems keeping your choice action on the 4 strings and just flick a lever.

    Cheers,
    Wallace
     
  11. Stinsok

    Stinsok Supporting Member

    Dec 16, 2002
    Central Alabama
    Actually, it was not a gig. It was practice. We play tuned down a half step, drop D is actually C#. It's a lot to ask of stock strings.
     
  12. Wallace320

    Wallace320 Commercial User

    Mar 19, 2012
    Milan, Italy
    I play D, G, C, F and C, G, C, F with the detuner, with regular RotoSound Swing66.
    Believe me: Hipshot, it's forever, or it's reversible, if you get rid of the bass.

    Ah: and don't forget to align pickups, especially front split, or second polepiece down E string'll fall under the string, instead of aside

    Cheers,
    Wallace
     
  13. mdogs

    mdogs Supporting Member

    Apr 13, 2010
    Constant state of flux
    NEVER use stock strings, I never get why people would do this... Having said that, I find that some basses just do not respond well to alternate lower tunings as others even with heavier strings.
     
  14. Russell L

    Russell L

    Mar 5, 2011
    Cayce, SC
    I've played down a half-step with both my American Jazz and Jazz Bass Special (on the P pup) with absolutely no problems. Seems a Blacktop would be no different than playing a P-bass.
     
  15. Okay, C# on a .100 is about as floppy as you'll ever want to get, so definitely move to a .105 or even .110
     
  16. Stinsok

    Stinsok Supporting Member

    Dec 16, 2002
    Central Alabama
    In general, I am having trouble falling in love with the tone of this bass. I have never anticipated the arrival of a new bass as much as this one. It plays well, was put together well, looks cool, but it's just not "the one."
     

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