The clankiest, grindiest Class D head.

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Uncle Hanky, Apr 20, 2018.

  1. Uncle Hanky

    Uncle Hanky

    May 10, 2017
    I have a penchant for verbosity, so I will try to just dive right in.

    My current rig is a 1973 Peavey Century 120 (60W @8ohms, 100W @4ohms) into a 600W, 8ohm Carvin Redeye 4x10. I'm getting ready to start playing in a band with a couple of friends, and I'd like to protect my poor antique Peavey from traveling/gigging. I figured I'd save space in my compact sedan and get a class D head.

    Here are my desires/requirements:

    1. Nothing that will overpower the Carvin (again, 600W AND 8ohms). I don't mind the weight of it, the casters are rock solid, and I just think the scruffy thing looks [email protected]$$! A 4ohm-capable head isn't out of the question, obviously.

    2. I know there are a few newer ones on the market, but I like my gear like I like my cars: purchased after some sap has eaten the depreciation.

    3. I love the sound of my Peavey. I just need something less roadworn and obviously louder. If there's any Class D head that really shines with that mid-heavy clank and grind, then it's probably the one I'm looking for.

    4. It really needs to take pedals well, as we are forming a sludge/stoner/doom band, and I use lots of fuzz.

    Thanks for muddling through my venal ramblings. And TIA for any advice.
  2. seamonkey


    Aug 6, 2004
    You're trying to preserve the Peavey? Interesting.
    Is there a DI out, or pre-amp out? You could just plug it into a power amp to get some more power, and keep the tone of the Peavey pre in your tone.
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  3. ctmullins

    ctmullins Dominated Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 18, 2008
    MS Gulf Coast
    I'm highly opinionated and extremely self-assured

    These days it’s extremely difficult to find a head that isn’t 4-ohm capable.

    Sounds like GK to me. I suggest the MB500.

    I have no idea what that even means.
  4. Uncle Hanky want some clanky! :bassist:
  5. Uncle Hanky

    Uncle Hanky

    May 10, 2017
    It's purely sentimental value. I bought it for $140, but it's the first head that I felt gave me "that sound."
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  6. Uncle Hanky

    Uncle Hanky

    May 10, 2017
    Hahaha! I've read a few places that some amps are better than others when it comes to running effects. I'm not sure, because I've never really used modern amps.
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  7. mmbongo

    mmbongo I have too many basses. Supporting Member

    Darkglass M900 sounds right up your alley.

    Don't worry about overpowering your cabinet, pretty much any modern amp has the capability to damage that cabinet...just use common sense with the volume knob.
  8. basss

    basss Supporting Member

    Aug 27, 2001
  9. Basscasey


    Apr 17, 2018
    Portland, OR
    Darkglass, Darkglass, and you might also want to try Darkglass.

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  10. Basscasey


    Apr 17, 2018
    Portland, OR
    And GK :)
  11. saabfender

    saabfender Inactive

    Jan 10, 2018
    I clicked on the thread to say something about Darkglass, but someone already did. Nevermind.
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  12. Uncle Hanky

    Uncle Hanky

    May 10, 2017
    So how does everyone feel about Darkglass??? :roflmao::laugh:;)

    A friend recommended the AG700, if any of you fine folks know about that one.
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  13. KJMO


    Feb 6, 2015
    I wonder if, with the right settings, the tech21 vt500 could get a similar sound.?
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  14. GK MB500 is right in the power band and has a versatile preamp, pristine to crunchy saturation, useful 4 band EQ and even a decent sounding foot switchable drive circuit. It also plays well with effects and has a DI that engineers don't mind taking to the FOH.
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  15. Loring

    Loring Supporting Member

    May 4, 2017
    DG and GK are great suggestions. The Magellan MG800 is another that takes pedals well and can get gritty on the dirt channel. Super easy to dial in tones with it's two different contours. Shame you're not looking for a cab also... The BA cabs use paper tweeters that pair really well with distorted tones. So much so that Dunlop uses these to showcase their pedals.
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  16. monsterthompson

    monsterthompson The Eighth Note Wonder Of The World Supporting Member

    Nov 25, 2008
    Darkglass is clank, and the 900 is a nice amp, but they tend to flip at less of a discount from retail than other heads. When cruising the classifieds, be sure to start your PM with "Dear Sap" to ensure the smoothest possible transaction, at the best price.
  17. StraffordMike


    Apr 25, 2015
    My GK Fusion 550 will grind pavement.
  18. BadExample


    Jan 21, 2016
    If you can find a GB Streamliner 600 used, it should put you in hog's heaven. I have not logged a lot of hours on mine, but it certainly has the grind. Para-eq mids should help with the clank. At 8 ohms, perfect for your cab and you should even be able to get into the power amp magic if you play loud. Who doesn't?

    @/\/\3phist0 might be able to tell you more about the mids and gigs with it, he's got the 900, maybe the 600 too.

    Expect to pay up to a buck for it (per watt). This might be available still: Used Genz Benz STREAMLINER 600 Bass Amp 500 Watts | Bass Amps | Music Go Round Wilkes-Barre Looks to be.

    This is why the 8 ohm redeye and the 600 would be good together: Ran my Streamliner at 16 ohms tonight -- a revelation

    I love my 600 so much I went and got a 900, just to keep it company while I'm at work and can't cuddle it.
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  19. mmbongo

    mmbongo I have too many basses. Supporting Member

    I see a lot of suggestions for 500 watt amps here....people keep in mind that his cab is 8 ohms so these 500 watt amps will only do about 200 watts or so to that cab. The 800/900 watt amps mentioned will do about 450 watts at 8 ohm which is perfect.
  20. BadExample


    Jan 21, 2016
    But not applicable to my post bro. You WANT to hit the limits to enjoy some really groovin' circuitry, although the 900 would work well, as there is a lot of grind available in the all tube pre-amp. ;)
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