Some of you saw my griping in the my other post(s) about being displeased with certain farty perhaps belchy aspects of my Ampeg SVT610hlf. Especially during the note D. After destroying convection theories at my Physics class (never trust a history major in the physics lab), I went to back to GC for a few hours today. I could finally play at an increased volume with many basses, and thru many different cabs both stand-alone and combinations. Why, because there was not the "drum-off" competition happening. Regretfully, there was a drum-off happening when I bought the 610hlf, and I could not turn up and disturb the 99% talent-less drumming going on in the next room. I think that drum off made me buy the wrong cab. ahhhhh. *On-the-down low tangent... (I know talk bass is a way for us to get away from drummers), but several years ago I placed 4th in my city's GC drum off. My secret to placing 4th: be original. ditch the double-bass crap, play traditional grip or with the snare off, be musical with the triplets, entertain, maybe pretend to do drum corps stuff. To the grimaces of many mulleted drummers, I guess the judges liked it a lot. I have since sworn off drum competitions. I guess a bass playing drummer can only get so lucky once. While I was low volume testing the SVT610hlf, I heard the same fricking drum solo 20 times : funky beat, china cymbal exploration followed by the double-kick beat, followed by the incorrect rudiments, followed by the triplets. roto-toms, splashes and bongos.. oh my! I was so numbed by the "drum off" it had to be the reason I bought the 610hlf? Maybe 1,000 flams and rim shots can make you think you can lift this cabinet by yourself when your diet is all chipotle. A warning to all: Make no purchases during drum off week. BTW- I returned the 610hlf and bough a 410he and a 15e. I already own a 15e so this gives me the best of every world. 4x10 or 15" stand-alone or a stack of 15" or 4x10 + 15" stack and all the cabs match cosmetically and can be lifted by me after many jager shotz. also, the 410hlf farted on the "D" too.