The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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  1. MJ5150

    MJ5150 Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 12, 2001
    Olympia, WA
    I got around to seeing the movie yesterday. I saw it in regular 2D. I thought it was great.

    -Mike
     
  2. FA108208usat2

    FA108208usat2 Guest

    Mar 24, 2014
    I think the orc in this movie especially in the final battle is too weak like they were being killed so easily and the love triangle was just bad and random, but it is still a great ending of the hobbit trilogy and It's the best out of the other two movies.
     
  3. yodedude2

    yodedude2 Supporting Member

    Nov 19, 2005
    san antonio, texas
    what's the body count?
     
  4. devinp17

    devinp17

    Jun 26, 2014
    Ontario, Canada
    I'm going to see this tomorrow... looking forward to it :thumbsup:.
     
  5. Pilgrim

    Pilgrim Supporting Member

    You'd have to have superscript to even guess a number. It's "powers" of numbers. In fact, after the end of the second movie (when Smaug left the mountain) there really isn't a lot of the original book remaining...so the movie fills out the story with extended battle scenes. However, I found them appropriate and interesting to watch. There are some tear-jerkers in the process.

    There is also a lovely bit of foreshadowing involving Legolas which sets up major characters in the first Lord Of The Ring movie very nicely. I won't say more to avoid spoilers, but you can't miss it.

    I loved the movie. I have been incredibly impressed with the vision that Peter Jackson brought to the six-movie project.
     
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  6. Selta

    Selta

    Feb 6, 2002
    Pacific Northwet
    I give it a sold "C" in my book. Not as good as the first two, the CG was terrible (copy/paste all over the place, lighting inconsistency, obviously blocking and so on) for a Wingnut/Peter Jackson movie.Still doesn't really follow Tolkien cannon, but that's OK, I expect some artistic interpertation and expression. Some of it just doesn't fit well though and is quite forced. Too much foreshadowing, though some of the cooler "small details" are there (such as the ravens with the dwarves) for some fan service. I'll end up owning the trilogy I'm sure, but I'll wait for it to be on sale in a bargin bin.
     
  7. Ironbar

    Ironbar Inactive

    Aug 24, 2013
    Tigard, Oregon
    I just don't know if I can do it. The first two sucked SO bad that I don't know if I can force myself to pay movie theater prices to see it. I will likely wait to rent it.
     
  8. Saw it in 3-D. I dug it.
     
  9. MJ5150

    MJ5150 Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 12, 2001
    Olympia, WA
    I must be a goofball. I've loved every minute of all six of these movies.

    -Mike
     
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  10. Ironbar

    Ironbar Inactive

    Aug 24, 2013
    Tigard, Oregon
    No, you're not a goofball. I simply find the Hobbit movies SO utterly over the top on the all the CGI and additional story elements that it's completely disingenuous to the spirit of the original story. I understand that directors have artistic license when creating film from literature, but Peter Jackson has taken what was already a great story and practically turned it into a Monty Python-esqe parody of itself.
     
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  11. slobake

    slobake resident ... something

    Will Peter Jackson start on the Silmarillion next? Or maybe "Farmer Giles of Ham." "The Children of Hurin?" "Roverandam?"
     
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  12. Selta

    Selta

    Feb 6, 2002
    Pacific Northwet
    Well, they already drew some material from Silmarillion. But I'm pretty sure there's issues with getting movies out of any other Tolkien works.
     
  13. Yeah, The Silmarillion would have a GIGANTIC cast! It would also be about 700 hours long.
     
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  14. hrodbert696

    hrodbert696 Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    I saw the first one and was very disappointed. I'm not such a purist that I think everything has to stick to canon - film is a different medium from literature, after all. But it reminded me of a review of the second Pirates of the Caribbean movie; all the rambling, sprawling, flailing around incoherence that you dread in a pirate movie, which the first one had surprisingly avoided, the second one subjected you to. It was kind of like that with LOTR vs. Hobbit movies. It's NOT a grand epic, it's a simple little tale of There and Back Again. The backstory gives it depth when it is precisely that - backstory.

    I've got half a mind to be interested in what could be done with the Children of Hurin or the Beleriand, but frankly would rather they stay in the realm of literature.

    EDIT: in other news, I recently came across a notice that C.J. Cherryh's Morgaine books got optioned for movie treatments about a year ago. Now THAT I would like to see, if it's done right.
     
  15. Bob_Ross

    Bob_Ross Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 29, 2012
    It's been almost 40 years since I read The Hobbit so I'm probably just misremembering, but I'd swear Tolkien used the phrase "The Battle Of Five Armies", not "The Battle Of The Five Armies" in his original book. Am I confabulating?
     
  16. Selta

    Selta

    Feb 6, 2002
    Pacific Northwet
    In Tolkien lore, it is indeed known as Battle of Five Armies.
     
  17. MJ5150

    MJ5150 Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 12, 2001
    Olympia, WA
    I read the book in school, but I remember very little. That's OK by me. If I wanted the book version of the story, I would have read the book. Maybe they'll branch off with episodes about each character. I'd watch a movie about Legolas/Tauriel/Thranduil.

    -Mike
     
  18. I thought it was good. I fell asleep halfway through the second movie, but that's what happens when I try to watch movies when I'm tired, not because it was bad or anything, and I don't remember much of the first one because that was so long ago. I did have a few "this wasn't in the book!" moments, but, you know, it was a good movie.
     
  19. Pilgrim

    Pilgrim Supporting Member

    Me, too! I make no apologies to anyone about that. Those movies are the best visualization of books that I have ever seen. And I'm a bit of a geek about the Tolkien books, having read the trilogy and the Hobbit multiple times.

    Those movies are all fantastic. I go to a movie to ENJOY it, not to nitpick and find things about it I don't like. It's all part of the "willing suspension of disbelief" that's an essential part of enjoying any movie.

    We're not goofballs, we're going to the movies to be entertained, not to look for blemishes.
     
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  20. MJ5150

    MJ5150 Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 12, 2001
    Olympia, WA
    Well put buddy, thanks for validating my thoughts.

    -Mike