So I was watching this auction yesterday of a Henry the 8x8 with hunger. Considering my wife's doubts about my sanity, I held my bidding to only $340, and the cabinet went for $405. I thought, man, whoever that guy was still got a great deal. Then I got interested in browsing the finished auctions, because I consider those to be somewhat representative of what I would have to bid in future auctions to get certain used gear. What I found surprised me. The first column below is the piece, the second is the final bid on Ebay for a completed transaction. The third column the is Musician's friend price. The final column is the percentage that whoever bought the gear would have recoupped (assuming that all people shop though mf, which I realize is not true) I tried to get the data below to look nicer, but I failed. Sorry. Item Closing bid Retail Percent carvin 410 301 399 75 carvin rl1000 510 649 79 carvin rl118 289 359 81 carvin rc210 576 799 72 carvin rl1000 471 649 73 carvin 410 255 399 64 610 stack 767 1089 70 wt1000 amp 455 959 47 navigator 560 809 69 210 xlt 455 689 66 210 D210T 345 599 58 swr 750 460 899 51 goliath 410 380 799 48 working man 4004 330 599 55 Redhead 660 1449 46 While the data is certainly not exhaustive, it does suggest several things. The first is that the conventional wisdom that brands like SWR, eden, etc hold their value better than budget brands is not true. The person who bought the rl118, for an extreme example, made out a lot better than the person who bought the super redhead. The second thing these figures suggest that is if somebody is thinking about high end brands, it makes a lot of sense to look used, because you can save a lot of money. If you're going to buy from carvin though, you might want to throw in the extra dollars to insure you're getting pristine gear.