The "Proper" way...

The more I see things shouted down, the more it makes me wonder how the people who do it came to the conclusion that how they've decided to do things is the only proper way and anything else is simply wrong? I'm not looking for the usual condescending schtick from the usual suspects, I'm looking for actual insight because frankly I don't get it.

This has been rampant in the amps forum, I had no idea that it was happening here too... though I guess I should have.

So... why is your way the only way? How do you know that things you've dismissed can't work as well as people who've actually tried?

 

I'm the same way. But there are people who can't allow for any success other than their own. I'm wondering how they decided another method that they have no experience with had no merit. And worse, the experience of of others simply doesn't matter. To the point where they attack anyone/anything that doesn't fit in their box...

 

Thanks... but that doesn't address how one can completely dismiss something they haven't even tried.

As far as years of experience, how does one decide their years of experience trumps anyone else's? Is 50 better than 30? Have solutions come up that you may have missed in all those years? I mentioned my experience (well in excess of twenty years) and it was scoffed at by one of the TB "experts".

Talkbass is full of people who not only tell people what not to even try, they also seem to get upset when their rules aren't followed by everyone else. That's the only proper way to do things... their way.

 

You can take that somewhere else.

Thanks... this is a serious conversation.

 

I didn't miss your point... if you are not the people I described I wasn't talking about you.

 

I'm not fired up. I'm asking a fairly basic question about what I see on TB on a fairly regular basis in a few forums including this one. A question I've thought about often when I see what I seen. Someone asks a question and people offer answers based on either their experience or what they've otherwise gleaned elsewhere. Then here comes the expert(s) and the arguing starts, typically by someone who has an inside track on how things should be done... and everyone else is deemed wrong.

For example, there are people who'll argue that you shouldn't adjust the truss rod on a bass to set the action. Period. That's not what it's for. So if you have a bass that was properly set up and due to an environmental change the action is now higher or lower, you should adjust something else.

I've had people chastise me for not using a straight edge when adjusting a truss rod. Despite the fact that all of my basses play clean when set very low... according to how "I" play. IOW perfect for me. I can sight a neck and see which way I want to adjust it. Based on my experience. And yes, I've played Plek'd basses that don't play as low as mine.

Doesn't make a difference if what you do resolves the problem... if you didn't get to the desired effect the proper way, you're wrong. Quite often this is followed by ridicule, which for some is allowed. More often than not under the cloak of web anonymity. I can't do that nor do I want to.

If I found a solution to a situation that works well for me, I'm not going to try to convince someone who got the results they wanted that they're "wrong"... we just chose different paths to the same end.

There are folks here who will not think outside their box. Folks who are more than happy to tell you what not to do. "It didn't work for me so it couldn't possibly work for you". I really don't get that mindset and I'd love to hear why people do this. It's a question I've never seen asked here on TB.

 

It wasn't just that, Walter, which is why I hadn't focused on it.

The failures you saw I can pretty much guarantee did not do what "I" described. What I specifically described seems to have been basically ignored.

And having grown up around a master carpenter, I wouldn't put a screw that I may want to remove one day into wet wood. IME letting the wood cure would make for a tighter fit and a screw that could be reinserted many times. IME that would be better and was also what I used to do until I discovered otherwise.

But I didn't tell you that you were wrong because that's what works for you. Cool.


And when I mentioned the multiple times my way has worked extremely well (screw is extremely tight, doesn't strip or loosen, long term), I got ridiculed. No problem, BHST

The same thing happens with amp experts, technique experts, bass experts, etc. I simply don't understand the need to do this. The need to clown people is just icing on the cake.

I kind of look at this situation like a GPS. Ihave places that I've driven to for years, sure I've found the best route... then the GPS shows me something I hadn't even considered and that knowledge helps me going forward. Didn't hurt my ego one bit.

 

Most professionals I know are willing to consider things they haven't tried. That's how we learn new things.

 

Read the thread. If you still think it doesn't belong here, cool. I think it does because as I said this is one of the handful of forums I've seen what I've described.

And I've been here longer than twelve years.