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The Quest For Tone ... Or, My Journey For A Portable Rig

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by FenderP, Apr 16, 2006.


  1. FenderP

    FenderP Supporting Member

    May 7, 2005
    I may have posted awhile back about my trials and tribulations of finding a portable rig for the Rush tribute band I play with.

    I have always been an Ampeg tube guy - I own a '67 B-15N, and a B-25B with matching 2x15. I first tried the B-15R, but it was (ahem) not very good. Then I made the B-25B with the 2x15 my rig for awhile, but as you can probably tell, it was a tad bit underpowered (the B-25B is only about 60 watts; try that over a drummer who is emulating Neil Peart!) and HEAVY to schlep. Not optimal.

    Being a 15" speaker and tube guy, I got the Mesa Walkabout Scout 1x15" combo last summer and it's been my live rig since. It has the power, but I'm always fiddling with it - I just can't get that immediate sound like I can from my Ampegs.

    So I have been on the amp quest again, but I don't want to break the bank. I want to keep the Mesa 1x15", as it's a good and lightweight 15". If the Walkabout head works out still, great.

    I was considering trying out one of the Bergantino IP112s, but I know a 12" just quite isn't my sound. (I had an Ampeg SB-12 back in the day) I e-mailed them, and they wouldn't even make a one off 115, so I scrapped that idea totally. Nice amp, nice weight, a bit costly, and it does sound good - just not quite my sound.

    Well, fast forward to last week. I ordered the Yamaha BBT500H from Musicians Friend, thinking it may work as the reviews I read were decent. Plus at$399, it's not a bad risk and if it didn't work, I could send it back. On its own, no it didn't quite work as it was too sterile, but I could get a more immediate sound. Then I had a somewhat brilliant idea - why not use the B-25B as a preamp, and then the Yammy as a power amp and have it set to flat?

    I tried it and boom - there was my sound, just amplified louder. I'm going to give it a go the next two rehearsals, but if all works well, the Walkabout head is going to be sold.
     
  2. Is the B-25b all-tube?
     
  3. FenderP

    FenderP Supporting Member

    May 7, 2005
    Yup - had it for years. Same model I also used in high school which is probably why I still love it.
     
  4. tornadobass

    tornadobass Supporting Member

    Nov 20, 2000
    Iowa City, Iowa
    Endorsing Artist: Black Diamond & SuperSensitive strings
    With the all-tube amp, remember that you cannot use it just as a preamp. If the amp doesn't see a load, it will cook the output transformer.
     
  5. Fuzzbass

    Fuzzbass P5 with overdrive Gold Supporting Member

    12's not your thing? I'd recommend Ampeg SVP-Pro plus IP310 if it wasn't so bulky. I also own some fancier preamps, but my SVP-Pro sounds killer through my Berg HT310/HT115 stack.
     
  6. FenderP

    FenderP Supporting Member

    May 7, 2005
    Yup. The B-25B just has a pre out for an external amp, so I'm not sending any load. The amp has standby off since it's never essentially turned on - the preamp is active and seding signal. I'm looking for a dummy load thing cheap now.

    I was considering getting a splitter so I can run both the B-25B output and the Yamaha output and running it into the 1x15" so that I get a bit of dirt as well.
     
  7. FenderP

    FenderP Supporting Member

    May 7, 2005
    Hate 10s even more than 12s. Only 15s or 18s I find useful.
     

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